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Yeah, see, theres this thing called free will. That means you can be a asstard and do whatever you want. It is up to humans to be good. God had nothing to do with those things. As for the unfortunate unperfectness of life, that is the way it is. Its our job to overcome these things. By showing pictures of what you would call the "less fortunate", you are making the statement that their life sucks. Therefore you are using your free will to be a terrible person.
Can you explain the complexities of life? How complex structures such as your eyes, ears, and organs work? Please enlighten me as to how you can believe that your existence just sprung into life. Sure the Christian God is the equivalent of some past king, but such a fundamental concept certainly outrules your douchebag opinion.
Scathing. Anyone who says these things don't have to do with God obviously are ignoring that he "is" in control of everything, that's why he's God. If God is what people say he is, he could have prevented everything that happened.
Yes, man does these things to himself, but only an evil or absent God would allow him to do so.
huh? so how is it when war breaks out between 2 factions, both sides pray to god to help destroy their enemy... someone is going to be disapointed... could it be, all of them? selfish as f*ck to think god will answer your prayer for victory and not the other team as well. hey, don't get upset, killing in the name of god still has the highest kill ratio out of any plague, virus, atom bomb...
rich bitch :p I mean really, donating for a ytmnd sounds a LOT better than dropping $50 a week at church... christians tricking other christians... heheh... at least atheism (or non christians, anyways) are honest about what you're donating towards hahaha i hope max uses the donation money to buy himself a jesus lamp for all I care, as long as it makes him happy =]
If we are responsible for what we create, and God created man, does this not make God responsible for what man has wrought? That's the flaw in monotheism- by giving all power and knowledge to a single deity, blame and praise are equally deserved, and anyone who ignores the former to only give the latter is blind. That's right. Your God made man, knowing -in advance- every vile, disgusting, angelic, and loving action man would do. Of course, if it was the only way good things could be done, was it worth it?
Ok Master, how about this...
From a Christian perspective, are there not two types of sin? sins of commision and omission. Commision you do, omission you fail to do. So if you see a person mugging a women and you don't stop it that is a sin of omission as far as the Church is concerned. If these are the standards we are held to why is God magically held to some lower standard? He doesn't have to destroy free will, but falty dentonation system in the Hiroshima bomb might of been nice.
"So if you see a person mugging a women and you don't stop it that is a sin of omission as far as the Church is concerned."
The church is not God. There is only one type of sin and sin simply means "disobedience". How does God disobey Himself?
As for Hiroshima, are you saying living under the threat of imperialist Japan was a better idea? Humanist sentiment is nice, but fails when your enemy is hellbent on your destruction. No, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are what ended that war.
A common quote that's incorrectly interpreted. Epicurus was referring to the notion of a benevolent Greek god, not the monotheistic Judeo-Christian or Islamic god (i.e. "God" or "Allah")... probably because Hebrews were a small ethnic cult nearly 1000 miles away and Islam wouldn't exist for another 1000 years.
I take responsibility for my own actions, that's the whole f*cking point to begin with that i was arguing about. Blaming god for sh*t humans do is stupid. i believe every single aspect of scientific truth, alongside faith, so back off. It's not really effective when 2 random ytmnders challenge me on faith like i'm some martyr to the cause, meanwhile, 4 billion or so other individuals have faith, I'm certainly not alone, and I'm certainly more advanced than a lot of them when i say i believe in science 100%.
I love how some people are trying to make serious arguements for and against religion but it only becomes hilarious when glancing through and seeing the witty L Ron Hubbard comments and such, we're too cultured for our own good. But the arguement isnt that god did all of these things, the fact is that there is no god to do, or not to do all of these things.
yeah nice job going to ogrish and 4 chan and getting all the overused offensive pics you could find, then trying to blame the subject matter on Christianity. seriously, last time i checked, the people that were in charge of terrorist attacks hate God. in fact, half of the things in those pics were things that happened due to a general hatred for all things Christian. the other half were random gross pics that dug up in an effort to make you already garbage troll of a site even more offensive. stop trolling.
I'm pretty utilitarian, so I don't have much interest in religious or philosophical discussions. But I find it interesting that, on the one hand, religious folks acknowledge that we can't understand God or know his plan, but on the other hand, they're constantly carrying on about how this or that is "God's plan." I'll stick with science-at least there are solutions and answers to be found therein.
Bingo. The reality of there being a god or not is simply in the ability to prove (or produce) this god... and since this has yet to be done other than images on some middle-aged mexican's breakfast toast, I'll stick with that which has been proven. Children's bedtime stories and medival population control is the sum of the belief in god. Bow down my pretties...
Most if not all suffering stems from either: sin or nature.
You cannot fault God for the sins of humans. So why should He allow natural suffering? I don't know, but perhaps we can ask Him if we meet Him. I'm not going to bitch about nature though, since it is simultaneously beautiful and painful and I think with the natural world you have to accept some risk and suffering.
You can ask the brick wall or the spaghetti monster what it thinks about the order of nature... the response will be the same. Nature is survival of the fittest and the food chain follows accordingly. Strike me the f*ck down, but there is no god, at least nothing close to the fabrication humanity has been poisoned with.
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