The Atheist Test
Created on: August 26th, 2006
I stole the text off of a pamphlet I got from someone and put the pictures in myself
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comparing a building being a builder to the universe being created by god is sheer stupidity, they are nothing alike, we can see people who build the buildings, we have proof they were there. Claiming there is no god needs knowledge, but claiming there is one can be fine and dandy with no knowledge? F*ck you twice!
Replace a few words and this site could be used to spread Judaism, Islam, and almost any other religion. Statistically speaking (since you seem to love it so much), there is some sort of higher power (which was well proved by you), but the probability that it's the Christain God is mathematically insignificant.
1) Universe isnt in order, it still explodes, expands, has problems
2) Banana is how it is because humans caused it to be. For thousands of years we ate and planted the bananas that had those characteristics, now thats all we have.
3) The eye, animals with no eyes can still 'see' or sense their surroundings. Light is still radio waves, so eyes are just adapted antennae.
4) If God were real, Ebaumsworld would be off the net by now.
Wow this is stupid, that Darwin quote is completly out of context. he used it to support evolution by saying a simple eye could emerge then by natural selection it could become more and more complex over a period of millions of years. If this is somehow a joke sry for the downvoting, but if this is not... you're gonna rot in the ground when you die and you can believe in all the fairy tales you want, it's still gonna happen.
Pretty good point. Most of the people 1 starring this are probably just in denial. It's a tough question. Is it more likely that a creator more complex than anything in the entire universe exists, or that everything in the universe has occured by chance, including the laws of the universe... where did they come from?
^and just who, besides false doctors and evangelicals, said it had anything to do with chance? The chance of a consciousness that has neither a physical nor energy form existing in this universe before the big bang and forming both by willpower alone to exact specifications is ludicrous when viewed from any school of science. Everything, even things beyond this dimension, falling under natural, predictable, and repeatable processes must be an insane proposition from such a view, even if it does get results.
Nice try.
However, you commit the usual fallacity. Yes, that fifty oranges would fall like that if you drop them once? unlikely.
Let em fall a couple million times.
There you go. By the way: A god that would condemn someone just because that person doesn't believe the "good" thing isn't a god. It's just another Stalinesque dictator.
And just like in real life, I rather go to a gulaq than kiss Stalin's butt. Sorry. ;)
Okay, I have watched your YTMND all the way through so now I can comment. I couldn't even make it through the first time it was so dumb. Firstly, since this is the most obvious of points THAT IS THE SUCKIEST MUSIC EVER. Secondly, WHAT THE #$^% ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE WITH THIS? Thirdly, as many before me have pointed out, you are trying to prove that YOUR Christian God exists by a series of mostly flawed proofs that, at best, show He MIGHT exist. Or, as also pointed out, it could be FSM. Or Zeus. Or-
that invisible unicorn thing. Or the melting giant found in Norse myths. Next point, your Ten Commandments prohibit idolatry. Then what is Jesus? After all, he is worshipped as a seperate entity and for all you know he could have been lying the entire time and getting his miracle-power from someplace else. Finally, where in the Christian definition of a loving, knowing, caring God does Hell fit? Honestly, so much devotion to such a contradictory religion, it makes no sense.
kay where do I start, firstly this jab at people is an obvious troll. So all you 5 starring mouthbreathers who say these athiests are angry? What do you expect from trolling. Next, I'm not even going to delve into string theory and the infinitesimal infinities that can exist in the multidimensional facets of current hypothesis. Again not proven, but niether is anything you say. given this it IS possible for coke to be designed by chance, although unlikely, in an infinite statistics pool it will
happen. 50 oranges falling into equally distanced squares is just as likely as them falling in any given pattern. This is a silly "test". Example, I had a few nickles in my pocket the other day at a gas station, and dropped them...oddly they spun, collided with each other and stood perfectly upright next to each other..proof of intelligence or dice luck...I submit the latter kind sir.
Just one thought... GO F*CK YOURSELF WITH A FUCXKING LOAF OF BREAD YOU PREACHY BASTARD! IT IS YOU WHO WILL BURN IN HELL, FOR TURNING OTHERS FROM GOD! All you proved is that there might be a God. But your God is not Mine, because he sends people to hell on a whim, instead of Forgiving and loving everyone, even if they don't believe in him! Also you're a f*g, no stars.
watching it through... I don't believe in a Hell.. why would a supreme being with infinite love and knowledge make one suffer an eternity for a live of, lets say, 70 years? Even if that person sinned every moment of his life. I highly disbelieve that a loving/intellegent god would punish someone for eternity.. It just doesn't make sense.
To put it in prospective... I'm sure you love your mother very very much. But God, who is the creator of love, loves your mother more than you could ever hope to. Now, would you send your mother to a place of torture and pain for an eternity even if she sinned consistently? I'm sure you'd say "no." And God, with his love, (which is more so than yours), would not send someone he loved into torment. There are many other ways your mother could learn the love of God without suffering.
I know suffering and torment are used in life to teach us lessons. But what lesson would an eternity of torment teach us? "woops i was wrong?" There could be countless ways we could be shown that we are wrong, upon death. And with a loving God, why would he pick the road of hate and torture for the beings he loved and creating? Just think about it.. Hell was most likely created in the Bible to 'scare' people into believing in God. It works. Fear is powerful, you and I both know this (ex. Scientology).
Ok, normally I'm not an angry guy, but this is the biggest pile of bullsh*t I've EVER seen about proving god. WTF was with the oranges?? And, like I've seen said so many times before, absence of proof IS NOT PROOF. I could just as easily make a "christianity test" that uses the absence of proof for a god that exists as proof that he doesn't exist....Oh wait, you didn't even MAKE this!! This is utterly stupid, and a waste of my time. 1'd, and I'd go lower if I could.
I love it when gnostics make fun of athiests for not being agnostics, as if the same logic couldn't apply to thier confidence in the existence of god. Is it possible that in the 99.9% of knowlege *you* don't have that there's proof that god doesn't exist? LOL 1'd for pretending this gibberish is rational.
Well, I won't flame you like the others did. As there are close-minded Christians, there are close-minded non-Christians. All I can say is that all your arguments are simply based on run-around "logic" and an attempt to simplify what we cannot. Romans certainly didn't think we could walk on the moon, but it happened. Science changes its paradigms as more information is learned. That's the beauty of it... all you have to fall back on is one single document while we have the world around us.
The perfect oranges thing is absolutely stupid.
You can only compare the two if the human body is perfect, which it isn't. A perfect body would never age and be immune to all pain and disease.
Drop the oranges. Then shake the table a little for millions of years. I bet at some point you wouldn't get perfect rows, but something would be aquequate. If our eyes were perfect, our vision would never fade and we'd never go blind.
Christianity is so illogical.
I saw that banana thing on a clip of Mike Seaver's show. It was hilariously stupid then, and someone else quoting it is even moreso. When you realize that all of humanity's notions of how beautiful and good the Earth is are entirely subjective, every single "intelligent design" argument falls apart. You're a fool.
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These arguments are so stupid and dated that it makes my head hurt. Here's an exerpt from a CHRISTIAN WEBSITE: “'Darwin mentioned the absurdity of eye evolution in The Origin of Species.' Citing his statement at face value is subtly out of context. Darwin was talking about its seeming absurdity but then said that after all it was quite easy to imagine that the eye could be built step-by-step (in his opinion, with which AiG obviously disagrees—see Darwin vs. The Eye and An eye for creation)." as for the others: OMG THE BANANA IS CONVENIENT TO EAT IT MUST BE GOD!!!
I completely disagree. However, I award you a 3 since you at least attempt to compose logical arguments against evolution. I respect that far more than blind adherence to "the bible says so". Your homework assignment: Identify the weaknesses in these arguments. Consider the count-points an evolutionist would pose. Attempt to strengthen your original points. & come up w/ some on your own. This will help make you a better thinker!
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These arguments are all ridiculously easy to refute, and anyone with any kind of training in logic and reason can pick them apart. As for the television "test," that's science, not faith.
Science: Making observations about the world and using those observations to make assumptions, i.e. "The television has come on the last twenty times I pressed this button, therefore I expect it to come on when I press this button.
Religion: Believing that which there cannot be evidence to support (Faith).
Cut out the last couple of frames where you tell people that if they don't believe in your specific interpretation of what God wants they are going to go to your specific interpretation of what God's judgement will be and I'd give you a 5, till then you get a 3. It was very good, except for those last 2 frames. Fear of hell is for children, love of God and thanks for what he gave us is why adults believe. Telling adults that they will go to hell if they don't xyz, only pushes them away...
Nice way to make bullsh*t look intelgent.
Take a computer chip for exmaple. It's far too complex for you yourself to create, or understand its operating principles, but you know that it was designed by someone. Did 'god' design the computer chip? Nope. And yes, I do understand how a TV works. There is no question about that. But wereTV's around in Adam & eve's time? Did god put TV's around so Cain and Able could watch the Simpsons on their off days? Who made the TV? Who made the computer chip? We did
Thank you for making this. You probubly knew you were gonna get bashed like hell by the people here writing very intellegent comments like- "F*ck you you f*cking motherf*cker, f*ck you and your f*cking gay *ss sh*tty
motherf*cker YTMNDs!" These comments are really making me fear the future of human kind.
I loved the metaphors, and the quotes. Nice job, you get a 5.
These are the very worst of the creationist and theist arguements for god. You've got the arguement from design ("looks designed to me, so it must be designed"), the argument from ignorance ("the eye is to complex to evolve"), and then he goes on to quote scripture. These are all fallicious arguments. Before you just grab stuff off a pamphlet, you should really do some research. Also, because something is improbable does not make it impossible. I suggest books on evolution and logical fallacies. Nice try.
The "bannana conundrum" shows you're a complete tool. That's just like saying god exists because the sky is blue- if the sky was fricking burnt sienna you'd say the exact same thing. I myself have faith god exists, but it's futile to prove an infalsifiability through an analogy of a fricking bannana.
Possibilty one: god exists - the chance god created us is nearly 100%
Possibility two: god doesn't exist - we know we exist, the chance we were created randomly is 100%
add the two, divide by 2, the chance that god created us is entirely based on an estimated % of god's existence, intellignet design isn't a valid support of god's existence.
Also, you assume that people who believe will go to heaven, while those who don't believe will go to hell. This assumes your view of god is correct, and thus, all other views are wrong. It would be just as intelligent to say that everyone who is convinced by such weak reasoning will go to hell, while those who question the logic will go to heaven. No one knows - GTFO
plus equals which simplifies to Thanks for clearing that up. These are some of the weakest arguments I've ever heard. They do not prove god exists, and *assuming* god exists, what makes you think god is the Christian god? Any site that uses 'you'll go to hell' tactics is an automatic 1/5. I'm agnostic because there is no evidence proving god exists, if there is evidence, I'll change my mind.
uuuugh i coudlnt finish it. i totally agree with you, darwin, and any intellegent person that the odds of the human body coming into being naturally are mundboggling. Now, proove to me that, despite the odds, natural occurance of humanty DIDN'T happen. How can you say that god DOES exist without "omniscience". You, like all other christians, are too single-minded to ever bring back the now thinking world to your faith. Im sorry.
I hereby reject jesus, i accept the penalty of the everlasting fires of hell, i reject my so called creator, i reject all commandments, i believe that i know enough to say there is no god out there, i hereby sign that i am Ariathan, alias, and confirm the authenticity of this statement.
Thank you,
Now GET
THE
FCUK
OFF
MY
INTARWEBS.
GOOD DAY SIR
I hereby reject jesus, i accept the penalty of the everlasting fires of hell, i reject my so
called creator, i reject all commandments, i believe that i know enough to say there is no god
out there, i hereby sign that i am Ariathan, alias, and confirm the authenticity of this
statement. Thank you, Now GET THE FCUK OFF MY INTARWEBS. GOOD DAY SIR
Well, I do respect the fact that you decided to put arguments for your beliefs (even if they are out-dated to current Atheist standards, they are plausible nonetheless). I also apologize for the simple-minded Atheists/Agnostics, but you must remember, Christianity is filled with as many fools as any religion. And though I don't specifically agree with your views, this YTMND was very well done, so I'll give you a 4.
here is a little quiz of my own
if God exists he is the ultimate being right? and due to what the bible states he loves all beings therefore no matter what happens he loves us all and when you love you wish no harm to happen to that person?
why then in 2004 a tidal wave kill over 250,000 people and leave millions homeless? on a holy day at that
why oh why since he controls everything therefore made the earthquake happen?...
PWND!!!!
What if you're ALLERGIC TO BANANAS?!?!!!?
Ever think of that, genius?
Humans aren't the only thing that eats bananas. OMG RLY?!
Also, human eyes are pretty lousy. If our eyes were so "perfect", why are there so many people that need glasses? Squids have better eyes than we do. The mantis shrimp can see colors you can't even begin to imagine.
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