Who Murdered the Most People?
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Okay, two of those sources are from relatively obscure sites, the third (wikipedia) can be inaccurate at times. Next, what is your evidence proving that those involved in those murders were athiests? Look at the leadership in the nazi party. They had their hands all over different obscure religons. Look at some of their symbolism. Athiests don't do that. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Sorry, charlie, your bias is showing.
Honestly the russians had to kill more of their men than any other country just to turn the tide on the russain front. Looking back on history if that supposdely "athehist" country had quit had said "Lets surrender like france" or "Lets join the other atheisht nation in kicking the christains nations ass" we would be looking at some very diffrent banners today. im not defending the atrocites of the russains but their tactics eventually pulled through with pressure from the west.
Interesting presentation, but you've got a couple logic holes. #1 is that Islam has commited more murder in the recent past than any of the others and is in today's modern world the main source of violence. The second is that while dictators who reject religion have killed many, you'd have a hard time proving that anyone has ever been killed in the name of atheism. Religious wackos blow people up all the time because they think God is telling them to. Dictators do it for their own sick lust for power.
You're a complete fool... Not only are you just regurgitating a bunch of poorly thought-out Christian talking points, you're also providing completely mindless justification for anything you say. You didn't research this at all. This YTMND is a despicable harmony of untethered biases, misinformation and academic incest. Props for the smarmy presentation, though.
Hardly surprising, given the personage of Mao and Stalin, however your accredit of all deaths in the Crusades to Christendom is misleading: the initial Moslem conquest, the continuing wars with neighboring powers and the eventual retaking of the Holy Land far exceeded your estimate in terms of people slaughtered on behalf of Allah.
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Wow, if you would just answer, or at least cite somewhere that would counter-example your biggest viewer's point (that you in fact did not use ATHEISTS for your atheist kill count), instead of attempting comedy at the fact that your opposers aren't COMLETE IDIOTS, maybe this site would have some ground. Then the only thing that we could accuse you of is being anti-athiest and not comletely biased and presenting misleading or just wrong information.
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2006-10-04 21:45:28 momthinksimcool I'm an atheist, 4'd for showing
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Well, the Grand Duke of ROFLCOPTERS told me that Marvin Gaye and Steve Irwin will be at the Hollwood Bowl this weekend, that don't exactly make it a fact of reality. The accuracy and fairness of your Wikipedia source is questioned, and I see no real research behind the findings reported in your other two sources. No, you're not right just because you anger others; you anger others because of self righteousness and audacity in the face of being wrong.
Furthermore, what is to be gained by evaluating the evil deeds of the world by the religious views of those who perpetrate them, other than to demonize those with differing opinions? Also, what of Protestant Christianity? Are the military decisions made by Bill Clinton to be weighed together with the military decisions of George W. Bush? Both resulted in deaths, but neither of the decisions had much to do with religion, so much as stopping genocide (Clinton) and forcing the spread of democracy (Bush).
Wow, good job. Did all of the athiestic regimes who killed so many people kill them because they were athiest? No. No, they didn't. They killed them because they needed to keep control of their power. Your Catholic and Muslim examples on the other hand were derived from their religion...of course I'm not saying religious people are murderers. I'll leave jumping to the wrong conclusion to you Whetstone. I'm just saying that you're a pompous dick.
I'm sick of seeing Whetstone's sites. I hope some day he does something stupid and gets banned.
Btw, Whetty. It can't be counted as murder. All they did was take food away. That's not direct murder. Making Catholics win.
Also btw, The Soviet Union wasn't that hostile. Churches were allowed to exist, they were just monitored, so they don't have any sway in government.
Wow, you are an idiot. Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews, thats not counting all the other persecuted peoples. (Homos, Cripples, Retards, Gypsies, Slavs, even some Catholics got the gas, etc.) and way off base of the casualties inflicted by his armies. The official number of Russian casualties is around 20,000,000 but there are many historians who believe that this is a gross underestimate and the actual figure is more around 35,000,000 to 40,000,000 and thats just Russia. And don't even get me started on Islam.
-5 for nobody gives a flying f*ck, and you can't count the German Nazis, because Hitler loved Christianity. So you can knock off 6 mil, plus, Poland's dictatorship... Wasn't that ruled by Hitler? Scratch that off, too. GTFO my internets. I'll give you a +1 because I didn't click 1 by mistake. kthxbi
that was really cool and i liked the way you set it up... it's not likely i will do my own research, but i wish you gave more examples of what athiest type governments you are referring to. athiests are oxy morons. believing in the absense of something; is still something. and we did not come from nothing. we came from something. and that is all i have to say about that at this time.
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Holy sh*t this profile is f*cked.. Anyway, I did a lot of research, asked a couple history buffs im lucky enough to know, and it seems your totally right. The numbers are wrong for the most part, but it didnt change the order of who killed the most. Also, i dont see anything remotely offensive about this whole thing. Opinions backed with evidence is basically a high school timed writing.
Fact of the matter or not, when you have Mao Zhe Dong in China, you're talking at least a million killed, regardless of his religious beliefs. The fact that he was atheist is no indication of the future unless you're SO extreme an atheist that you see belief in a God or gods as so abhoreent as to be punishable by death. It's not the belief itself, it's the extremes that f*ck the world over.
When one compares genocide, you must not use absolute numbers, but look at it as a "per capita" kill rate. in the 1400s during the crusades, there were approximatly only 500,000,000 million humans, now there is 14 times that number, surely despots are allowed to kill 14 times as many people before being declared evil.
This proves nothing. Power hungry tyrants diminish the hope of the masses by taking away their faith and ultimately some of their lives. They feel accountable to no one--not to their people or a god. Power hungy tyrants also keep the masses happy with the opium of religion. These people have to appear accountable to the masses who believe in a god, and generally adhere to the preserving their own nation's lives (quite the contrary when it comes to other nations however).
So you place all atheists together to get some absurd number of murders yet you don't place all of religion together.
I think the tragedy that atheists point out is that ignorant people murder in the name of religion.
Here's an idea, quit giving a f*ck what other people believe and stop shoving it down their throats. That way we all can live in peace and none has to be persecuted over it. Then if your right you'll have a lot more heaven to yourself. BTW I'm not even atheist and I see this.
'sides, back during the Crusades, the population of only 31,000,000, so, by the Catholics killing 5,000,000, as you said in this ytmnd, they would have whacked roughly 1/6ths of the entire worlds population, simply to reclaim a strip of desert out in the middle of f'ing nowheres. As grim as it sounds, it is simply way easier to kill a few million people today than it was a thousand years ago.
(Source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Population)
1 for a pretty unentertaining YTMND regardless of the argument being presented and any potential merits said argument might have. Actually, rating the argument itself, it gets a 1 for being based wholly on an erroneous assumption (secular and athest aren't mutually inclusive) and confusing correlation and causation.
Four for effort, though to be fair labeling all Atheists as evil mass murders because of the acts of a few despots is as fair as labeling all christians as child molestors because of t he acts of a few priests. There is as much diversity among Athiests as there is among Christians. Just as often the only link between Christians of various denominations is the single belief that Jesus died for your sins, often the only link between Atheists is the unwillingness to except the existance of the supernatural.
These regimes that murdered the innocents rejected religion and God not for rational reasons, but because they saw religion as competition and merely wished to have complete domination over their citizens. True Athiests are not threatened by religion and respect their belief's, but merely disagree with them.
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Damn man, I gained a little respect for you with your last YTMND and now I just lost it...all
I was about to type of a long and thought out post explaining why you are wrong but no you aren't worth it
Whet I'm trying really hard to distance my opinion of you and Christianity...
Do you really believe athiests are evil? Are agnostics the same way?
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I DO believe this to be easily plausible. The best among Christians (in my opinion), contribute silently, anonymously, and thanklessly (on earth), much like an idealist liberal (I KNOW, they are as hard to find and recognize as Mr. Right). The 5% or so of Christians we are all flaming about are such inhuman monsters and create such an unfathomable stink that it is easy to assume that only a much larger population could wreak such destruction and chaos...
here is the a flow chart of the people I think are most screwing up our world... (the worst) people who use violence to prove their point > the person who thinks only of them self (who can be mistaken for an atheist) > Westburo Baptist Church type of people > type of people who only see one side of the political spectrum (or sees things in black and white) > people like whet (I stop at around the middle...I could go on) I should also point out that I'm fairly certain whet falls into the next category
Are you done yet? The only reason atheists killed more people was because that a few corrupt dictators tried to banish religion because it could possibly conflict with their political views... It doesn't have anything in particular to do with being an atheist, it's not like they killed people because they were atheists, they just felt it was necessary for achieving their goal. However christians killed people because they were christians themselves.
Your way of comparison is wrong. Events such as the crusades were organised from the standpoint of one religious organisation, to eliminate the other. Dictatorship regimes eliminate certain religions because they see it as a threat to their power, not because they're like "im atheist lol i hate all you christians plz die". Besides, I don't trust any of your statistics. I despise catholicism (and the entire sect of judeo-christianity, at that), but during the medieval witchhunts and the crusades, several
tens of thousands of people were killed, not millions such as the speculation suggests. lol, history. Plus, you left out simple facts such as the catholic church indirectly supporting the Hitler regime because they wanted to protect their sh*tty gold. Further more, I'd like to add something of a more philosophical nature, which is that the judeo-christian ideology is responsible for most misery in the world, us f*cking up this planet, and us eventually destroying it, ourselves included. I'm tempted to say that this disease needs to be cured, but that'd make me no better than you, pathetic chap.
I will give it a one for the effort of putting it together. Bob barker and the price is right used to make light of the deaths of almost 300,000,000 people. Disgusting. As for the commentary about atheist dictators being the greatest mass murderer.. please, They killed people because they were dictators.. not athiests. They did not try and convert people to atheist by the sword as christians and muslims in the past have done. There is a difference.
This was to prove what? Just because they didn't beieve in any organizied religion doesn't mean they killed peole because of that. Did you forget you used the term "dictator"? All they do is kill people for any reason. I'm not really an athiest but i don't like organized religion. I don't go around killing people because of it. besides in the dictionary cult is defined as a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols and a particular system of religious worship.
atheists do not congragate, we do not have a central thought believe. what one atheist does has no relation on another one. what you did was relate a car accident to an earthquake in sudan, its not realistic.
however, the crusades and the inquisitions were funded acknowledged and agreed upon by all christians as righteous, and thats why everybody talks about it. im also willing to bet a good bit of that number came from stalins russia, well they werent atheists, they were communist.
I loved the ending!! You got everything right, except for screwing up the muslim numbers (too low) and saying the death toll on the crusades are christians fault. Also, the numbers for the death toll on the medieval inquisition sound ridiculously high... But for the ending alone you get all 5 stars!! :)
youre completely missing the point. ATHEISTS are not associated by any formal organization, like organized religion. we do not agree on all the same things or compell each other to. in addition, those atheist dictators were not killing people in the name of atheism. on the other hand, those religious people were killing others for being of a different faith. ANY atheist i know, does not advocate death for religious people. most religious people (christians) that i know, are convinced that even good..
...people will go to hell, just because they don't believe the liar jesus chrust. you're obviously a f*cking idiot. and dont think that religious states wouldnt, dont, or have never killed atheists for declining to believe in bullsh*t spirituality. religious people dying as a result of a communist state is an ideological conflict. it is not a crime based on atheist philosophy since we prescribe to no creed, but political ambition. you are saying that atheists kill because we are atheists, but we...
...have no expansionist doctrine like religions do. obviously the dictator of a communist state is a lunatic murderous bastard, his religious afiliation does not determine how many will die. it may define the reasons he chooses to kill people. in the koran it says to kill infidels. in every holy book, there are a multitude of texts advising what to do with nonbelievers, most are unreasonable and violent. show me in the atheist handbook where it says to kill christians (and i will do it).
I think you're just wallowing in ego at this point. "Dig me! Dig me!"
The site you referenced is full of flaws and outright lies. Hitler goes in the Christian category for one thing, and "dictarships hostile to organized religion" does not equal "atheists". But it's not worth refuting your made-up garbage, as this is more about you getting attention than anything else.
i think this is interesting as trivia, if only because it does seem counterintuitive. another thing to note is that religious states have a penchant for slaughtering OTHER people groups, whereas secular states tend to just slaughter their own. i think every atheist should should ask him/herself where "inalienable human rights" can come from, if not from some divine authority. i'm an agnostic, and i don't know how to answer that question to my satisfaction.
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I still think Catholics are on the top here. I am sure many other people have already stated this same thing, but the systems who caused so much death aren't athiest for the same reasons as a person who examined the issue and simply doesn't believe there is a god. The systems you cited are violently opposed to any form of religion because they don't want their people to have hope or something to hold onto, they want them submissive to the state.
well, first off, your driver receives benefits of handicapped parking, since many retards are, like myself, unable to drive. Also, just about every atrocity that mankind has committed gets people like me committed, no matter where we are or what we are doing. a guy like me could be laying in bed, sawin logs one minute. The next...BULLSEYE!!! Yup, society likes to have an easy scapegoat for times when mistakes are made and things go wrong, so they keep a ready-made bull’s-eye handy, just in case.
What about nice athiests, im an athiest but you dont se me trying to sway anyone's faith, just because I don't believe in a religion dosn't mean I feel I have to fight it. Thats the diference between you and I, You keep trying to bash athiests and prove there is a god, when I the athiest, the route of all these evils, cares nothing of what religion people have. If anything most athiests are nice people in general than god fearing evangelical biggots who try to convinc people that they are wrong.
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