Who Murdered the Most People?
Created on: October 4th, 2006
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You could simply combine all of the religions in the world into a group and count how many they killed, and I am sure it would be near equal or more to the atheist groups combined. Flawed ideologies are flawed ideologies. All it takes is the denial of individual rights to cause any genocide, and the atheists and religious have both contained these flawed ideologies in their sub groups. I am an Objectivist, and an atheist and do not think this is a fair argument to ideologies that are not anti-life.
Obviously based on your findings it shows that all 4 are bad and that there is no correlation between religious beliefs (or lack of) and the amount of bloodshed that happens in the world. Just because people are athiest doesnt mean we have no morals. I am tired of the YTMNDs that try to proove one side is superior then the other. "OMG CHRISTIANS ONLY KILLED X Million while Athiests killed XX Million" HAHA CHRISTIANS ARE BETTER WE KILL LESS" gimmie a break...
Your content is crap, but your site made me laugh...like watching a train made of clowns crash. But you fail to identify any dictatorship that was 'atheist'. Infact, I can't even THINK of any ruling state or group that IS atheist. Your case would be stronger if you named a few that were...but I highly doubt you'd find any.
Non-Religious Dictatorship =/= Atheist
Also: You're comparing killing in the name of god VS killing for non-religious reasons... how many people have been killed in the name of Atheism? Very few, if any. "Non-religious dictators" is not an organization, there is no membership... so you can't count them together.
Guess what! Christianity wins the most-murdered-in-the-name-of award!
umm..your SORTA right...some these dictators DID WORSHIP, however. They WORSHIPPED MONEY, and passed themselves off as bigwigs of the moral and religious majority. The more I bone up on this, the more I SERIOUSLY DOUBT if Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, OR Dubya had EVER read ANY religious text for more than ONE MINUTE at a time...
Although it's true that many people where murdered under communist and anti-religious crusades, those people still had a fanatical and non questioning "faith" in their ideology. You could call them political religions I suppose. The trouble starts when people refuse to admit they are wrong and when they believe that the end justifies any means.
I commend you however, for making this not as much of a preachy site as giving us facts. however youre twisting the facts and grouping the wrong people together to beguile people into thinking that there is no difference between atheists and communists, thats like saying there is no difference between squares and rectangles. seriously, take out stalin and the communists, then recount.
Oh yes! Aetheists are the only ones who leave ruthless comments for something that condemns them such as this!
I completely forgot about the all the anti-religious sites out there that dont get bashed daily by religious zealots as well!
This site is misleading...not only is it presented in a completely biased way, but you go so far as to simplify all dictators actions as drivin by some sort of "aetheist" or non-religious agenda. Dont get aetheism confused with over-zealous spiritualism please.
LOL, ASSOCIATIONS! Undoubtedly, since murders were committed mostly by atheists, then atheists are evil. Also, since christianity involves a large number of pedophiles, christians are undoubtedly all pedophiles! I'M SO SMART. Wait, no, that's almost as retarded as your association. You fail at life, and in the after-life, I will gladly find you and kick your *ss several times over. And I mean it. Also, http://f*ckyoucloud.ytmnsfw.com/
5 for the idea here; although badly expressed. Most those atheist killings were not done for intolerance of religion but its true a ton were, which in itself is a good point to make to people considering all the dumbasses who like to throw around data about religion killing. I'm suprised how many people are bashing this even with your annoying record.
Allow me to spell this out for you whetstone, you are not going to convert anyone here
just because you say atheists killed more people than catholics, it doesn't mean we're all going to drop to our knees and accept that the world was created 7000 years ago by a giant old man who lives in the clouds
Hitler was very much a christian by the way
u just like the attention dont u
I HATE YOU WHETSTONE I HATE EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR EVERY WORD YOU SAY AND THE WAY YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE.
I think its about god damn time you ridiculous religious people accept the inherent absurdity of existence and just learn to roll with it; you know, kind of like NIetzche.
In High School they teach you Hitler was the Don in mass murders. . . Read about the history of the Soviet Union and Red China and then you see the cool numbers. 100-200 million. He's right...do the research and you'll find that communism killed the most. He is just connecting communism to athiesm. While Mao and Stalin were dictators they held firm to their own brand of communist beliefs, which forbid the exercise of religion.
There's a fundamental difference between the motivations of those who went on the Crusades and those in the communist dictatorships of the 20th century. Those who went on the Crusades did what they did BECAUSE of their religion. Conversely, however, those in the communist dictatorships just happened to be atheist. Atheism didn't instruct them to kill anyone. Yes, communism requires atheism, but this does not mean that atheism will lead to communism or mass murder.
Ultimately, people are led to mass murder based on blind faith and on the belief that one's own views are right to such an extent that one is led to feel that anyone who disagrees is the enemy who must be eliminated. This faith can be anything - that (insert minority) are inferior, that (insert religious adherents of your choice) are infidels, or anything else.
Of course, the obvious corollary of this is that it's of the utmost importance not to assure oneself of one's own perceived intellectual superiority and to question everything in life - to not simply believe in something without thinking about it. I'd wager, however, that certain people (cough, cough) find such a notion abhorrent, and would prefer instead to simply blame a group over there (atheists) completely separate from themselves (hint, hint).
50 million Siberian farmers were exterminated because they didn't cooperate with Stalins collectivism. (Why do you think Siberia is so empty today?) 100 million Chinese were starved due to Mao's polices of forced factory labor. With all the peasants making sh*tty steel pots, pans and AKs there wasn't enough food for decades in China. I think whetstone drew the dot from marxs to athiesm.
1. Atheists who want to kill any organised form of religion are in violation with the principle of freedom. Afaik, I as an atheist am all about freedom
2. Dictatorship != atheism. Please, anyone who kills millions of people are just evil and are using their atheism as a cover. True atheists are supposed to respect life, as they don't believe in an life beyond death. True atheists are hard to find, I'm afraid.
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3. Karl Marx NEVER intended to kill 200 million people. Hell, he most likely would have accused stalinist Russia/communist China if he would have been around. The only thing he wanted to do is create a superior society with a better division of wealth and power. Please, don't mix up your ideologies
-1 for your reasoning (I know some stupid "atheists" use it as well, -5 to them), but otherwise it's a great ytmnd.
Sir Whet most certainly did not supply statistics, just a list of numbers that could have come from anywhere. Right now I'm checking to see how many of those deaths were the direct result of Atheism, his numbers were the raw result of DICTATORSHIPS. They included war, famine, and several of the countries listed are secular or theistic dictatorships. Also, the man who wrote these numbers is a political activist who overexaggerates the fatalites. Also, you counted Poland twice. It's on the dictator list
So far no one has presented any real arguement against this claim, also re read Whetstones first comment: "I am simply addressing each misconception I keep seeing. People accuse
organized religion of being the biggest killer- and the crusades are
repeated like a mantra. People need to open their eyes." It simply proves that the "religion has caused so much more death then anything, therefore it is terrible and is fake" arguement is false. Anyway this still does not really mean anything to me in the way of
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The people you're trying to convert to Christianity are probably getting really, REALLY annoyed with all things Christian.
And besides, if you want to convert someone to Christianity, just GO OUTSIDE. Unless you live in the ocean or on the moon, there's a good chance you're in a town full of people, just waiting to be preached to. Honestly, if I were you, I'd go find some flesh and blood people to convert, not a bunch of strangers in a chat room who hate you.
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Atheism is not in itself a sect of religion. so therefore, theres no way that people who believe in "atheism" are all responsible for those millions of deaths. I am oblivious to any type of religion. I haven't killed anyone... maybe Anti religion activists (not atheists) are responsible for those deaths.
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hey dude, way to use your proper planes of analysis when dealing with time periods.
muslims killing people in the last century vs catholics in their entire history? Bang on perfect.
Thats like saying "more people have died in the past 6000 years (when the world was first created, obviously) that in the 20th century, so the 20th century wasn't as dangerous as the rest of history.
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There was no punchline, *ssh*l*e. Just your ignorant rantings. Equating atheism with the oppresive policies of any regime of the last century is the height of misrepresentation; I might as well say that Americans are all murders because the United States, through direct and indirect means, has been the death of millions across the planet since its creation.
Noble-Ire: that is the correct response. that is Bin Laden's idealogy for instance. however, if you took a poll most Americans would believe Muslims qualify in the same manner. why exclude Atheists from the same idealogical treatment that are given to Muslims (or even Communists against whom many Americans still hold similar grudges). its great that a lot of us on teh intarweb are 'enlightened' but the world isn't that way. turn on your TV.
Being hostile to every religion is not exactly atheism, that's just being an *ssh*l*e. Nonetheless, I found the YTMND entertaining, what with the incongruity with the Price is Right theme with all the mass murdering. 5 for you, even though it doesn't really matter, this'll be voted 1 so many times by people it won't matter.
This is disgraceful. Just as I had thought you were getting better at presenting arguments- and were perhaps going to stop posting stuff like this and not waste your talents- this pops up. It is evident that you have skill in photoshop, image editing, and graphic design. Why not use it to make comedy and lulz instead of divisive pseudoarguments? They aren't helping your cause; if anything, they are making people even more reluctant to listen to it.
These are the kind of YTMND's that stopped me from visiting everyday. I know the site is about expression, but at the end of the day, I just want a laugh. I want to click on a few funny sites and go on with my day. When I want philosophical debate, I'll read a book.
In addition to that - these sites don't convert anyone. On both sides. They just play to their audiences. If the message is strong enough on its own, it doesn't need a preacher.
B) Your comparing groups of people to people who arent part of any of the groups, it would be fair(or semi fair) to compare Muslum & Christian but athiests cannot be compared to it, that would be like saying more people who dont play football beat their wives than people who do play football, it would be more fair to compare %s in this case, or if you compared %s of how many people commited mass murder but you would have to compare the entirety of all religions vs all athiests
C) Those were bad people, thats like saying the Athiest dictators who commit mass murder are representatives for all athiests, or saying that Hitler is a representative of all christians, or that Osama bin Laden is a representative of all Muslums, its just plain wrong, you shouldnt hold people accountable for the actions of others because they have something in common with each other
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You're a petty propagandist, Whetstone. Your numbers for the Catholic "murders" are entirely exaggerated... b-b-but you did RESEARCH on the interwebs!1one If it's on the internet, it MUST be true. Please... I could claim that the lunar landing was a hoax staged by the U.S. government, and link to plenty of sites that seem to back up my assertion. Do some real research, from objective sources (note: that doesn't include half-crocked Fundamentalist "scholars" with an anti-Catholic agenda.)
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I don't know, this is kind of like saying that people drink less X Factor Melon Gatorade than they do any kind of fruit juice. They're not really on the same level orginizationally. I suppose if you pinpointed a single atheistic dictatorship like the Nazis, they could be compared, but you can't compare a single religion's deaths to the deaths caused by everyone else. Not really fair
Im a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry WhetstoneIm a Christan myself, but I think you need to stop with all the religious
YTMNDS. Sorry Whetstone
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Being an atheist myself, I really resent what you're claiming here. Religion plays a major role in power structures in general. Preventing their organization is a political move, and does not imply that the dictators in question are atheists. Beyond that, this is YTMND. If you must talk about your invisible wizard in the sky, do it somewhere else.
Why do you all have to be such complete idiots? Why can't everybody just be happy with their own beliefs and just let others believe what they want? I'm happy being athiest, why should I care if my neighbor is Catholic or Athiest or Satanist? As long as they don't try to sacrafice me to their dark lord I'm happy. Freedom of Religeon is the main reason many people came to the americas, why ruin it?
Yeah the muslim bit is pretty erroneous, but that's alright. I generally hate your messages, and your general presence on YTMND (religious posterboys dont belong on a funny website), but this one was well put together and (reasonably) accurate and unbiased, and you didn't try to save me, so I'll give it a 3.
Yes it is true that more human beings were killed in the 20th century by statist, secular regimes in the 20th century than all past religious persecutions in history combined. However, It is not fair that you count the deaths at the hands of Muslims only in the 20th century, but count catholic persecutions of the medeival age. According to many historians 80-100 million people were massacred in the name of Islam during the conquest of the India alone from 1000-1500 A.D (the same time as the crusades)
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yaaay it's finally not the fault of Catholicism, now stop making sites that have to do with religion at all you one trick pony motherf*cker, it's people who care about the differences in faith that are the ones who inevitably start the fight anyway... ytmnd is about humour, not a person's f*cking faith, especially when comparing faiths to eachother in any way.... f*ck yerself whet BITCH... and for who do care about religion, keep it to yourself or just go practice your faith, don't bother YTMND with it...
Hitler did not align himself with the Church because he rejected all Christianity. "There is something very unhealthy about Christianity," "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law." And don't you dare say that these rejections exclude the Catholic Church because Catholicism isn't Christianity.
dont you think thats kind of a spurious figure? sure governments that were completely athiest did often murder people en masse.. but that was because religion got in the way of their right to power.. your argument is completely false in that those "atheists" like stalin, mao, they killed those people who were religious or just not cooperative in general purely because they wanted to consolidate power, while catholics and moslems alike killed others in the NAME of their religion.
guy above me was more concise in saying the same thing.. your comparison is completely false and misleading because you're comparing two very different things.. apples and oranges really. but i guess if you try to defend religion or insult atheists you have to resort to these types of deceiving arguments
5d for the attempt at meaninful conversion. Not that its going to matter Nobody is going to read this. I think I understand what you are doing here. But please don't do this again.
In the end Whetstone has been proven right by the large amount of spam and hate spewed from persons of all religious persuasions. I don't agree with the Catholic side of things. He should have lumped all of Christianity into one category. It would have given the Atheists a run for their money if not flat out left them in
The dust. But you can't lump Communism and Facism into a religious category. Should have picked theological states instead.
In the end its not religious or political views that kill people. Those are just the vehicles driven by the engine of hate. And I has been shown here with dramatic results.
Again. Good job, you made your point. With me at least. Just don't do it again.
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