The point is not that he made a YTMND of something that already existed. The comedic value in this YTMND is that is loops over and over again, and it doesn't do that in the movie. Nothing you dolts would understand.
figures who did exist, did not. These things, and the records of apostles refusing to renounce christ while being tortured are what lead me to believe that jesus is not just a historical figure. Like others have said, the debate should not be wether he existed or not, but wether he was the son of god of not.
what little information we have about him seems to indicate that he was a high ranking officer in the british forces. However, there have been c*ntless tales about him throughout history. With jesus, you also have what some would say is mere fairy tales, and also recorded history about his death, and the fact that his death hapened at the same time as a major darkness/earthquake. Not to mention, that by the same logic you're using that says jesus didn't exist can be used to say that many other historical
Did I ever say I was arguing from a christian point? I asked for proof that jesus didn't exist, and from this video and what you've told me, I don't have it. Also, I did not argue wether MArk was written by mark(although history records that he dictated the gospel). That is irrelevant, what I'm sayin, is that four gospels tell extraordinary stories about a man named jesus christ, and history backs up the fact that he existed. It's just like king arthur, who wasn't a king. A man named arthur existed, and
I'm not finding any argument on the authenticity of history recorded by these guys. Of the three I mentioned, tacitus is probably the most widely accepted outside of christian circles. Tacitus does no more than state the fact that christ was a man who was put to death by pontius pilate during the reign of tiberius. Furthermore, he calls christianity a pernicious superstition, showing that he doesn't exactly like it. Tacitus is one of the more important roman historians to have existed, and unless you can
Latest news? Seeing as they've been dead for a good while now, I don't think they're making the headlines. I've been looking for a while now, and I'm not sure what the latest news about these guys is. All I'm seeing is the fact that they were historians, or politicians who wrote letters making reference to christ. And about the apostles, their deaths are recorded by various historians (nicephorus, clement of rome etc). And I'm not sure what manuscript you are referring to, but it is agreed by many scholars
Interesting. However, you fail to mention that jesus was mentioned by tacitus, thallus, pliny the younger and other historians/politicians.
You fail to mention, also, that is recorded that 11 of the 12 apostles who were alive at the time of jesus' death were killed in gruesome and awful ways because they would not renounce their faith. I cannot, for the life of me, think of any reason why someone would refuse to renounce something that is a myth? I'm up for a conversation about this, if you are.
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