4Chan: the Dregs of the Internet
Created on: March 8th, 2007
This isn't anti or pro-4chan, it's just a statement that /b/ is sketchy as hell. :)
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I don't get the "NEDM", since NEDM didn't make the song, and there's no NEDM, and it's just Coburn, and I don't know what Coburn has to do with the internet in general, and the internet in general doesn't seem to be a big party, and 4channers seem to have a lot more fun than most internet users, so I'd reverse it, but it was at least something different.
This is a good ytmnd, but the truth of it is that 4chan is the recycling plant of the internet. There is very little REAL original content that comes out of 4chan, and even if there was, there's no way to prove it. YTMNDers have names, creation dates, records, etc. We can PROVE when something came out of YTMND. None of the chans can. I don't like 4chan, I don't like the majority of people that USE 4chan and I don't like seeing the word "4chan" sitting on the frontpage of ytmnd. Null Vote.
All you 4chan f*gs keep believing the lie and repeating the mantra that YTMND steals. 4Chan, and the rest of the internet, recycle content inspired from other places. Go to 4chan, all you see is disgraceful japanophile bullsh*t, sh*tty images with added subtitles, and some of the sickest porn on the net. 4chan, truly the toilet of the internet. http://colorit.ytmnd.com/ - Behold, some original YTMND content.
xXWaspXx: You state "There is very little REAL original content that comes out of 4chan, and even if there was, there's no way to prove it. YTMNDers have names, creation dates, records, etc. We can PROVE when something came out of YTMND." All creation dates do is proove when a site was created on YTMND, not the whole internet. There's no way to prove YTMND has a single bit of originality to it, nor is there proof for 4chan. All I can say is your point only works on a legal aspect, not realistically.
rofflemow: Not realistically as a whole, no, but then again, it's better than nothing; which is exactly what 4chan has. In creation of a YTMND, there is the option to cite sources, which at best does an accurate job at sourcing the various pieces of internet from which the YTMND itself is a derivative. There will never be 100% accuracy when dealing with internet memes and their origins, but YTMND does it's best under the constant criticism from users from sites like 4chan who constantly claim credit for...
...internet memes and fads. 4channers (I guess you could call them that) are notorious for criticizing YTMNDers for stealing "their" content. What my original point was stating is that there's simply no grounds from which to launch those kinds of claims, especially when your own method of starting online fads has no records or creation dates- because it's an image board- and that's something that will never change.
MistermonkeyMan: Noone will raid YTMND you, half of the people that go to 7chan/4chan go to ytmnd. NEDM Started HERE- Happycat, which ISN'T from 4chan to BEGIN with, was from a completely un-related site. Using Happycat in conjunction with Coburn's "We Interrupt this Program" is a concept completely foreign to 4chan- especially since 4chan doesn't have the ability to use soundclips. And "Sage This Sh*t"? Go back to your damp basement and look at more loli, you moron.
xXWaspXx: Then what you're stating is that 4chan doesn't have any original material, but you're also stating that there's no way to know that for sure, so you're contradicting yourself. I can't say with one hundred percent accuracy but if you keep an eye on recently created YTMNDs you'll notice a lot of copied fads that started being more popular on 4chan before they were on YTMND, and most of the time they're downvoted and they don't make it on the main page. So the people making those sites don't. . .
necesarrily represent all of YTMND but I'd say a large chunk of people on YTMND do just rip off something they find on 4chan or somethingawful or whatever. They just never get famous. But every once and a while you'll see one get into the up and coming. I think it's just those people that give YTMND a bad name.
rofflemow: I completely agree with you there- I see more copied sh*t on recently created or by browsing random.ytmnd.com than I do anywhere else. That's why I think that it's every YTMNDer's responsibility to try and keep the frontpage clean. I'm not saying the chans don't have any original content; I'm just saying that if they do, there's no way to even guess whether it's actually original or not- (This being said for the majority of content.) The reality of it is that both moot and max came from...
...Something Awful and both sites are always going to reek of it; being that both sites are founded (partially) on even older content than the sites themselves. There will never be 100% pure content on ANY user-submitted content site- EVER. It's impossible. I'm not one to sit and criticize 4chan for stealing sh*t from other people because I know how badly a lot of inexperienced YTMNDers do it. All I'm asking is for 4channers to stop criticizing everyone they see. We has votes for a reason: Quality Control.
xXWaspXx: Yeah, I think there's a fair amount of YTMND users who feel the same way as us about site control. But I believe 4chan may need to be recognized for one thing: before a fad gets big on YTMND, it's usually big on 4chan first. Doesn't mean it's original. Doesn't mean it's worth a damn. The cycle is usually the same, something on the internet found by Something Awful, overdone by 4chan, modified by YTMND and then watermarked by ebaum. But yeah, I agree, no more 4chan nazis please.
rofflemow: "...no more 4chan nazis please." I think that's something we can both agree on. I'm just really tired of defending fads I don't even like or use just for the sake of internet sanctity. There's stuff that's unique (from the beginning) to ytmnd and 4chan, there's stuff that's intermixed from everyone, and occasionally there's some direct theft (the stuff that gets downvoted by sensible users). Personally I try and make my content as fresh as possible.
xXWaspXx: Personally I decided I don't make very good YTMNDs but I make good sound loops of other people's songs. So if I make a site, even if it's terrible, I judge it not by what others say or whatnot, but whether or not the loop is flawless.
Yeah.. that was off topic. I should go to sleep. Thanks for the chat.
4chan is a miserable pile of secrets, and sh*t. Anonymous might like this... except (a). Anonymous despises YTMND almost as much as Gaia or otherChan, but not quite as much as Hal. & (b). First and second rule of /b/ ... also, I would add, vis a vis being outsiders to the party, (c). /b/ has the T or GTFO policy, which sometimes actually results in T. And V. And pooper. YTMND, by its SFW nature, doesn't get that kind of action.
Um, seriously though guys. I don't think the point is to show 4chan as "cool" in this image. It's more about their senseless need for self enforced exclusion. You might immediately associate this with "oh look, the 4channers think they're badass", but really, and that cough drives it home, it seems so lonely, the air so dry, and long past desperation to the point of derision.
Why do people bitch about 4chan vs. YTMND? It's just persistence of the idea that factions and sides have a place on the internet, when in reality all it really is is f*ggotry perpetuated by angry nerds. Furthermore, both sites are sh*tholes, albeit different types, anyway. tl;dr, it doesn't matter at all.
If you routinely look at the gore and the type of hyper-depraved pornography that pops up on that site, I don't care if you casually scroll past it or tear off your underwear and start fapping, you are almost by default a worse person than I am at this moment and more likely to commit a crime against humanity. There, I said it.
btw this isn't an argument; this is (lol,) internet.
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