Critic of Scientology Arrested
Created on: February 5th, 2007
www.operatingthetan.com - www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Henson -
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" * California Codes
o California Penal Code
+ PENAL CODE SECTION 422.6-422.95
422.6. (a) No person, whether or not acting under color of law,
shall by force or threat of force, willfully injure, intimidate,
interfere with, oppress, or threaten any other person in the free
exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him or her
by the Constitution or laws of this state or by the Constitution or
laws of the United States because of the other person's race, color"
I assume had this guy gotten a permit to picket (which he might not have gotten) he would have been fine. However, he probably didn't get a permit and the Supreme Court has affirmed restrictions on picketing near someone's house (i.e. you cannot picket an abortionists house), so it is unlikely that he could have gotten one. Basically it comes down to where this guy was at when he was picketing, he has no right to be on your front lawn, but it's possible he could use the streets. (continued in a sec)
Nevertheless, yes he might have a valid first rights claim, BUT the states are within their police power to add on to rights granted by the Constitution. Here they protect religious rights, race (13, 14, 15th amendments) and they add a few provisions of their own. Here the qualifier "shall by force or threat of force" determines whether or not this law is Constitutional, though I would say it is considering. The Supreme Court have held on numerous occasions that though there is freedom of speech it is no
...not PURE. I.e. the age old example of yelling fire in a crowded theater, or the court's more restrictive approach to commercial speech. Here the CA legislature is probably ok...I haven't really gone into research this specific provision nor looked at interpretations in CA case law (and CA courts are known to do some weird things). Ok...I was gonna add more, but it comes down to whether the neighborhood this place was in had restrictions on picketing and the like. If those were reasonable time...
place, and manner restrictions he really can't bitch. He likely didn't get a permit (this is just an assumption) and he may or may have not threatened them (since he was 'guilty' I assume they say he was allegedly doing it)...so I find no fault as I have no way of reading the trial court's opinion (I am not driving to California).
moheevi, he was actually arrested for 'threatening' Scientologist, however all the evidence they have on him for 'threatening' them comes from post he made on the internet years before he even started protesting where they arrested him, and a book that he wrote back in 1990. He never once threatened a Scientologist directly, only the organization itself.
"THE COURT: Sorry to keep you waiting a few minutes, ladies and gentlemen, but we had some things that we had to take care of. The People have now rested their case. The defense as you well know does not have to put on a case. In this instance the defense is not going to put on a defense, relying instead on the state of the evidence. So in a sense we have heard -- not in a sense, we have in fact heard all of the evidence that we're going to hear in this case."http://www.operatingthetan.com/henson351.html#pa
The biggest atrocity of Scientology is the dead people, dumbass.
Fair game. Look it up. It's never been rescinded. Scientology is no religion. By the way, Scinetology spent over 2 million dollars prosecuting a pro se litigant here. The judge seems to have been a nut. Most of the charges Scientoloigy leveled at this guy (and almost all the charges it shots out each day) were dismissed by various courts. you simply can't trust the 'facts' on the record.
i would appreciate you at least amend the part why the judge wouldn't allow in evidence of why he was picketing as it is clearly not relevant to the case at hand. think about it this way, if a KKK guy starts picketing outside a black church and is tried...should he be allowed to say, "well judge there is a reason why I was picketing..." it's just not relevant to whether this guy committed the offense under the CA statute. the only way it would be relevant was if Scientology people were threatening AND
"Moheevi - It is relevant. Play again" Alright, well I'm done even talking about this because the anti-Scientology people are just being ignorant. I am not trying to offend anyone who hates Scientology, I'm just pointing out that the law creates defenses to crimes, clearly this doesn't fall into an exception like "self-defense"...so what the hell would it fall under? I am talking about relevance in law, btw. So what you might consider relevant isn't necessarily relevant in the court of law. I just thin
...think that there too many ifs and buts here. From what I read the quotes may have been taken out of context, but I did read something that a detective said. Here, the judge (who I have not researched) isn't the one saying that they guy is guilty or not, it was a jury. The guy didn't speak on his own behalf (which may have been a good move on his part, as he seems to interrupt the judge several times during the proceedings...even talking on his cell phone at one point) and they put up no defense.
I realize that Scientology is hated on ytmnd and elsewhere, but just because we/you/us hate something...does that make our actions justifiable for injuring or threatening people (note i am not saying this guy is guilty)? Here the guy could have gotten a decent lawyer and probably got off, but I'd have to take a look through all the proceedings to even tell that...that's just my opinion.
dude i live in winchester, some 6 miles from hemet (infact i was born and raised ther, i know exacly what that cult biulding is! its the new era productions filming hq, this a huge castle and everything! its like a cancer in this area, about every few weeks, the cultist set up boths inside the walmart, and there always outside the hospitial and mental and drug rehab centers pulling aside every one and telling them there crap! if any one else is in the riverside area and whats to "help" me my aim bakomusha3
moheevi, the problem here is that the guy did intend to go to court. However, he was judged guilty, even though he wasn't, and then he was told he'd be killed while in jail. I mean, what would you do if for some reason, a SWAT team arrived at your home, grabbed you because the posts you made on YTMND are supposedly a national security threat, sentenced you to jail and told you they can't wait for you to get in so they can kill you? I think you'd go "F*ck this country" and leave.
Most interesting Comments page I've seen in months. ... I think the Church of Scientology is acheiving its goals. Between the threat of litigation and harassment, not to mention death/disappearance under mysterious circumstances, what journalist, publisher or producer wants to do a piece on them when *BRRRRRR* it's just so CHILLY in here !
I like the 'question what you read' comment. It's ironic, you are literally following your own advice by 'questioning' it, but going no further. You can always investigate it yourself. All the evidence you need is already out there, with www.operatingthetan.com providing the transcript of the trial itself. This situation didn't pop up out of nowhere, it has been going on for years now. It's just that it has recently resurfaced when he was re-arrested.
When the original site was deleted, I thought that evil Scientology agents had struck, but I guess he was just trying to make it SFW by blurring out the flipping-off Xenu. By the way, I summoned L. Ron Hubbard's ghost through the mirror and kicked him in the nuts with my ectoplasmic boots, I suggest you all do the same.
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