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What's lame about continually changing a site: Sometimes you change it well, sometimes you change it and make it suck ass. And I want to rate the good ones a 5, but the sucky ones a 1. But since it's the same site, I can't rate what it changed into without changing my previous vote. How can you appropriately rate a site when it's content is always changing? Just make more new sites, not change one over and over.
LazyTown - Wish this wasn't where I was writing this, but you gotta know. You are completely off mark. In what part of my post did I state that America is the pinnacle of morality in which we should universally consider pedophilia laws? What I was posting about is that it is BS to state that in the 1800s, age of consent was 8-10 years old, and that pedophilia is thus okay somehow. Also feminism in the 1800s WAS deeply tied to age of consent laws. It was a backdoor strategy by the...
Women Christian Temperance Union to criminalize rape. They had campaigns to raise the age of consent and to make statutory rape laws. This helped them strengthen laws against rape, as it was an effective political strategy to open the door to say that all rape was bad. Acting on pedophilia is rape. Rape was compaigned against because women wanted the right to justice against the crime. Some of WCTU were probably raped at a young age. Think women liked rape? How much clearer does the correlation need to be?
Smakula - Firstly, I agree that it is irritating to try and have a discussion in the comments section, but oh well. I am not knowledgeable about the AOC laws circa 19th century America, though they were undoubtedly significantly lower than they are now --so if you say it was 8-10 yrs old I will have to take your word for it. However, you initially brought up America with your first post, and that prompted me to respond. You seem . . .
to be insinuating that I am one of the said people who condone pedophilic actions vis-a-vis relating it back to earlier AOC laws; that isn't the case, however. Now, show me where I claim that womens rights and AOC laws aren't tied together? I stated that womens rights and PEDOPHILIA has a shaky connection at best, not the AOC. If you would re read my posts, you'll see that I am pointing out that America's laws and history of legality/illegality (or criminality for the puritans here) dealing with statutory rape should be of no consequence to people of other nations.
Apparantly, you didn't understand/realize the point of my posts: I objected to the implication that engaging in consensual sexual activity with a peripubescent was explicitly connected to opression of women. This is why other countries shouldn't concern themselves with Americas past here, AOC laws differ the world over, and few, if any, deal with the issue of prepubescents specifically. We are on the same page as far as pedophilia goes, but you have no argument when it comes to Stephanie.
Therefore I just wanted to point that out. She is not a prepubescent. AOC laws should be based around biological psychology and physiology, and I suppose sociological factors; not religious instiutions or policitally motivated orginizations as is the case today. Lastly, I did some research on the WCTU, and couldn't find any information pertaining to your claim, and I would appreciate a link or 2 for some reading. They appear to be feminist second to their religious/political motives.
LazyTown - My original point was that you can't use America's past AOC laws to justify arguing against current AOC laws. I believe that past AOC laws were a way for older men to put a moral face on their marriage (leading to sex) with vastly underaged girls. As women gained rights, they wanted this changed. It may have been a political strategy for feminism, but that was one side of the coin. I think their experience also played a part in wanting the change (here is where I see oppression).
I think that women wanted that to change, but due to no rights, it was not possible. I could be wrong there, but I think 13 year olds weren't too excited about marrying 30 year olds. So here is where I see the link; early AOC laws protected the reputation of people with pedophilic urges (IMO), it pretty much made pedophilia normal. With women having no rights, they had little access to change that, but eventually did. I don't have internet sources atm, but I was going on Sociology 104 notes.
You don't need to use the example of past AOC laws to make the arguement that today the laws are absurd. No more than feel-good policy. Also, I doubt even half of the people who were marrying 13 yr olds were pedophiles, the definition of pedophile states that one must have sexual attraction exclusively, or mainly towards prepubescents. If you want to make the arguement that 19th century AOC laws occasionally protected ones pedophilic actions, then one could easily reverse that and say that todays --
In case I haven't conveyed this correctly yet, I think the surge of women's rights resulted in pedophilia being depicted as a more villainous act in our society by way of raising the AOC, thus keeping marriage from putting a moral face on marrying and sexing young girls.Pedophilia is not directly an oppression of women's rights, but it seems that as a result of those rights, pedophilia was vilified here. You point to a more global scale, and I think we are most likely not on the same page in this argument.
AOC laws systematically brand innocent people as pedophiles for not adhering to the ridiculous government mandated, politically and/or religiously driven policies currently in place. If it was a political tool in the 19th century, then it surely is today as well --but to another end. Like I stated before, acting on pedophilia is wrong, but for politicians to moprh the definition of the medical condition/disorder (depending on how you view the issue) at whim to their advantage is a harmful abuse of power,
And yes Chuft, it seems I did used AOC and marriage age as the same thing, when I should have been using marriage age. But in taht regard, it applies to my argument. The push was for a higher marriage age, because a low marriage age made it institutionally okay to have sex with young girls. This is all from a feminist view point, which I am going off of.
and denies individuals of specific rights. AOC
laws should be based around biological psychology and physiology, and I
suppose sociological factors; not religious instiutions or policitally
motivated orginizations as is the case today. I should hope you're capable of appreciating such a view, Smakula.
I'm with Chuft on all of this. It was common in ancient Greece for girls to start having sex regularly at age 12. However, with the advent of technology, and religious teachings having rooted itself into our culture, that would not be appropriate or practical today; and that is exactly why I include sociological factors in the process of coming to a scientifically based, biologically concious AOC standard.
In my opinion, regardless of it being a politically or religiously motivated to keep AOC laws high, it is beneficial to keep them at around 17. It may seem like a ridiculously strict government mandate to some, but to others it seems like a safeguard on the naive nature of young ones. I'd be alright to argure this more, but not here in a comments page. Last word goes to you.
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I don't see what would prompt you to be a feminist. That means you believe there is an institutionalized discrimiation towards women? Because frankly, I don't see it. From the feminists that I've met, all of their ideas have been very vauge and abstract, typically revolving around past percieved injustices; spitting out nothing more than 60's era slogans. The other kind I've come into contact with are no more than motivational speakers who only discuss topics concerning females.
"It seems to me as if Magnús Scheving intentionally added a certain level of eroticism to the Stephanie character. I don't think it was by chance." ..One would be inclined to think that only after spending too much time around here, taking scenes out of context for a laugh. ;) Just because adult innuendo is projected onto a show like this doesn't mean innuendo was there to begin with.
VBBY - "i know this girl personally and if she knew all these sites were being made about her she'd cry forever." ...Woah. For those who aren't aware, Steph's actress Julianna Rose Mauriello is a genuinely sweet and talented person who deserves the best, which is why LOL innuendo/pedo gags and accompanying lewd remarks get old and and on my nerves after a while. I imagine the creator of this site similarly felt that things were getting out of hand, hence the (awesome) 404.
In my opinion (I don't know what America's law deems, nor the average of other nations laws) a pedophile would be someone who near excluseively has an attraction towards pre-pubescent children. The biological capable and desire to reproduce happens around 12 for each sex (give or take). However, things get complicated at this point. Society has certain expectations of their youth and I think this is where most of the points of contention come in.
"For those who aren't
aware, Steph's actress Julianna Rose Mauriello is a genuinely sweet and
talented person who deserves the best, which is why LOL innuendo/pedo gags
and accompanying lewd remarks get old. . ." Ah, so we agree once again, Nuroticat. Juli definitely deserves our respect. Not only that, but, from the limited footage and interviews I have seen of her, she seems to be a very sweet and down-to-earth person who does NOT deserve the trashing of her image, even if it is "Just a Joke."
I know goddamned well who I am, sir, and I'm frankly not in the mood to be insulted by some NARV imbecile who obviously has no idea of what he is saying. I know full well what YTMND is, and what its "point" is, and if you do not have anything mature to say then I suggest you sod off and crawl into whatever little hole you came from, Mr. Two-Votes. Also, horsedick.
I never said that all of YTMND was bad for Lazytown, chuft. There are some great Lazytown YTMNDs out there (such as this one), and we have probably given more free publicity than any other site on the web, which is never a bad thing. What I am saying, however, is that the sites/comments that, seriously or not, give the impression of "we think Stephanie=sex toy/pedophile's dream" are really unwarranted. In all honesty, I enjoyed some of them back in the day, but now the joke is wearing thin, and
Okay, look, this YTMND is great except one thing: The music. Why use such a wonderful song, RDJ's Stone In Focus, on a site like this? That is one of my favorite songs and this is probably one of the worst possible uses for it; I've spent some time trying to think of a worse situation, but... I can't think of one. This should have something exciting and peppy for music. Just a suggestion.
Censorship of any form is a bad thing, especially when you have the choice not to view it. Steph's actress Julianna Rose Mauriello is a sexual deviant who probably does cocaine like everyone else in showbiz. Or she's not. Regardless of what I say or what sites are made, she will be the same bitch/nice person that she was before. The only difference being... if you censor... you kill a piece of liberalism, and we don't get to laugh. Period. Burning cats should be allowed.
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Do you guys know what happend few days ago when this site, thehive, and the Dr 1337 Returns site all said "F*CK THIS SITE "? It's a conspiracy. Those 3 accounts might have something to do with this sickness. It's porbably the reason why this kiddy show is still popular. This is definitely a gimmick account...and it has links with 1337 and HiveMindedIndividuals...don't get caught up with his/her/its sites, or you'll be owned in the worst way possible.
"I have trouble understanding how a 8 year old girl (well the actress is
older but the character) with no breasts and a PINK WIG could be physically
attractive? I'm highly disturbed by about 85% of YTMND members. This is
really giving YTMND a terrible image by being on top of the sponsored list.
No wonder YTMND is getting less and less hits lately"
It's almost sad to look back on this now, considering how many new and pedo-rific (on a subliminal level, of course) things you have moved on to. But, as a final fare-thee-well, I have this to say: When a Man Lies, He murders/Some part of the World/These Are the Pale Deaths/Which Men Miscall Their Lives/All this I Cannot Bear to Witness Any Longer/Cannot the Kingdom of Salvation Take Me Home? Also, c*cks.
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