Who REALLY murdered the most people?
Created on: October 10th, 2006
Parody to Whetstones "Who Murdered The Most People?"
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The problem of choosing categorizations that are not determining factors in the statistics that you have categorized them for is that it makes you look like an idiot. If you parody a person who repeatedly makes themself look like an idiot, then you are a winner. Although, he is a bit of an easy target.
"In response to the telegrammed question of New York's Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein in 1929: "Do you believe in God? Stop. Answer paid 50 words." Einstein replied "I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind." Note that Einstein replied in only 25 (German) words. Spinoza was a naturalistic pantheist." Spinoza is a smart guy, you should read his book. It's crazy.
Of course pantheism's god is a "dead" god because he is simply all that is. Also, Spinoza said that the physical and the mental were two modes of one substance and that there were infinitely many modes that we can't comprehend/understand/observe. Of course, the proof was a logical one and has obviously been argued against, but in no way is there a heaven or hell under this god... It's basically saying that the laws of nature are God, and when you die you're dead, just like everything else in nature.
Einstein is not an athiest... Why do you think he spent so much of his life trying to create his Theory of Everything?
Anyway... Think of it this way. We are all Gods children, if you had three children and one was a perfect happy, loving angel. While the other two hated you, each other and the nice one and wanted to kill each other and the nice one.. Say you had no authority over them and could not stop them doing this, what do you do? Exactly what God did unfortuanatly there is no other way...
Sorry ShiftEsc, but Einstein believed in pantheism. God is not all good, he is merely omnipotent (this is taken from the notion of determinism, which would agree with Einstein because he's not an idiot) and Spinoza's pantheism leaves no room for free will of the conventional type. Your kids are bad because Spinoza's god made them bad, period, if you're a pantheist. The only sense of free will that Spinoza provided was that, if you know your complete causal prehistory, then you can know what will happen...
and even though you can not change what will happen, you are like god in that you are see god's plan, and there can be no other way than god's plan. Of course, this is impossible but there are other ways of having adequate understanding... understanding of the third kind, which aligns you with god's wisdom and gives you a sense of free will. Of course, take out the god and this all works perfectly well with secular notions of determinism.
To restate: Spinoza's (and Einstein's) conception of free will is this: Everything that happens does so because God wants it to happen. There is no good or bad, things are simply unfolding as God planned them to and the only way that they could given the way things were at any given point in time. Free will is merely understanding that this is how things are, and you are "free" in the same way god is "free" because you are not coerced, you understand why you do what you do. But... you can't change it.
Thus, everything that science proves works equally well in pantheism as in atheism and neither contradict at any point. Pantheism merely tacks on this god for reasons given by Spinoza. If you think he is mistaken, then you'll be an atheist. If you think he's correct, then you can be a pantheist. Atheism leaves room for pantheism... but personally I don't believe that Spinoza's logical framework was correct. If someone corrected it (if it is possible, which I doubt), then I'd be a pantheist.
Well you mentioned them in the same paragraph. Also, Einstein was a genious, so if he believed in pantheism maybe you should too. Also, if he didn't believe in the bible, maybe you shouldn't either. Just a thought. Also, lol noah's ark. What a joke. Did noah really make it to Australia and pick up some kangaroos without a boat? The boat wasn't launched until the flood waters launched it so...
"OMFG! CHRISTIANS GET OWNED LOL!!!!111!!1" No, just, no. This is not ownage of anything. Whetstone's site did not own anything. These sites do not shut anyone up, nor do they sway anyone from their beliefs. They may try to, but most of us are too hard headed to accept anything rather than what we're used to.
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. "[Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997]
Actually you can take it farther than that. An omnipotent being is responsible for anything nthat happens on his watch, so Jehovah is responsible for ALL death. That makes the total roughly 100 billion.
Oh, and Einstein sort of counts as an atheist because he thought of god in terms of a rational, harmonious order to the univers, and that is why Bohr freaked him out so much.
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