The Omnipotence Paradox
Created on: September 1st, 2006
Sync works in FF and IE but may require refresh/reload. Second in my series of paradox YTMNDs.
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Second: never saw the paradox here. Omnipotence regards God's power; the real problem is defining this "impossible-to-lift rock." Creating such a thing, if *omnipotence* is truly possible, would hence be IMpossible. That's not a paradox, that's just the limitation if you say that God (or someone) is omnipotent. End of story on that one, and reason why I 2 star.
The fallacy in the scenario is that you assume that god cannot become more powerful over time. The rock may be impossible to lift one moment, and then possible the next. Furthermore, it is only impossible to lift IF and WHEN god says it is impossible to lift. You assume that god both wants to lift the rock and doesn't want to lift thte rock, therefore you create the paradox artificially. Thus, your scenario does not disprove God.
Eh, all I gotta say to the people who say just change it to liftable is, change the ytmnd to add in that God created the super rock that can NEVER be lifted, and cannot be changed from this state. But the only thing that would happen then is god would become not-omnipotent. So he COULD create said rock, noone said he would since his omniscience comes into play, and knows if he did so he would no longer be omnipotent. Wow, I'm really f*cking drunk.
Well... if you fink about it..(Im an athiest but here goes) Cant god just creat a rock thats impossible to lift...try to lift it..and go..ah f*ck its too heavy..and then just change the rock from impossibe to lift to heavy enough so only god can lift it. there by getting around it, or better yet he just changes the defination of impossible to "Only god can lift it...for everyone else tis too heavy so stop trying ya bastards"...see 2 ways he can do it right there !
you could make it infinetly large and massive and still be able to lift it up, your problem lies in the semiotics of "impossible to lift" which really has nothing to do with omnipotence. also, who hasn't heard this before? you could have at least done the one where god makes a burrito so hot even he can't eat it.
If God do expist, you shouldn't use the Bible as a guideline to conclude what charracter traits he/it/whatever has. Oh, and the paradox is easily solved. In its current state, its un-liftable. In order for God to move it, he has to turn it liftable; which he can, because he's omnipotent. So he can and can't lift an un-liftable rock. So there.
this argument is stupid. no, nothing can break the laws of logic (even god, though some say he wrote them), but that does not mean god is not omnipotent. The word law is misleading, imho. I perfer the words fact or truth, because it says that's the way it is, there is no "breaking" it. It is you who is at fault for misunderstanding omnipotence. There are good arguments against the concept of god, and this is not one of them. Also, kingrames makes a good point. Also c*cks.
The basic flaw is the idea, not what god is, but what we are to god. If god is an omnipotent force in the universe, then in god's eyes this universe is not a tangible thing. So while god can create an impossible to lift rock in THIS universe, in the reality where/if god has a physical form, the rock does not exist.
The concept of G-d is a man-made fantasy and religion is a lie constructed to manipulate the ignorant masses. If you apply logic to faith, faith dissolves every time. Anyone with half a brain can see this quite clearly if they examine history. "Churchies" of any kind are brainwashed chimpanzees. All religions are the same... they are not based on any factual truth... only self-inflicted illusions. You can feel safe in dismissing all statements that begin with "The lord says" or "God says".
Those saying God does not work logically/is not logical are the only ones winning this argument, but I think some people had good intentions in saying those things. When I say God is illogical, I distinctly mean his existence doesn't make sense in our existence, so why bother postulating about something so improbably null? Logicizing the illogical is pointless, and whatever powers and qualities we give this non-existent entity are based on the contradicting limits of our human logic. also rocks
Everyone who 1's this just because they disagree with the author's percieved religious or non-religious bias are idiots of the highest caliber. If I were to grade this based on the YTMND itself, it would be a 4 because it was funny. As for the paradox, the definition of an impossible-to-lift rock must be one that stays impossible throughout eternity, since an omnipotent being could lift it in any way possible with ease, including traveling through time to do so. So this is a true paradox, f*ck downvoters.
You can't really define what omnipotence is or isn't. I think that if god does exist, the way humans try to explain him must be pretty comical. Kinda like ants talkin amongst themselves, in ant-speak, trying to comprehend nuclear science. I think the point is, that as humans, we can't explain gods power because he is not simply limited by "can" and "can't".
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