Dying Grace of the Saints
Created on: October 1st, 2006
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I'm ready to accept death when it comes, and I'm willing to pay any consequences as well. I believe that I'm doing my part to help others because it makes me feel better in return by doing so. I can't accept beliefs solely on faith. I would be lying to myself and everyone else, even if I were to act like I believed when I clearly don't. I don't think true belief is something that can be taught, it's probably something predisposed or gained through a personal experience.
Anyway, I found the stories to be touching and I agree with the morality and underlying intentions behind spreading good through religion. I'm happy to support others if they have good hearts, but I do so only for humankind and not for a greater power. I don't see anything wrong with agnosticism, people are just being honest to themselves by admitting they don't understand everything.
I 3'd this ytmnd, because I felt like that is what it deserved. It lost points with me because unlike the last one where I liked the presentation more than the content (truthfully) and it seemed like if one is not a follower of God you will burn in Hell. What does God say or do to the Buddhist monks that have sworn an oath of pacifism or the person that may not be perfect, but they hold the door open for people and such? My biggest gripe with religion is how people have carried out their doctrine.
Jim Jones, Al-Qaeda Moonies, Mormons, and other sects have one thing in common: They all use religion for their own interests and use terror methods or shady origins and ways to get their points across. Religion is not for everyone, I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief, and I think that we are our own gods and we sculpt our own world. You don't have to follow a centuries old book, scroll, or set of rules to know that killing, being too self-absorbed and even saying thank you
are good things to keep in mind. I bet you that if Allah, Jehovah, God, Buddha and all the other divinities were to look down at some of the ways their words have been carried out, they would be just shocked, as most, if not all of these divinities would've assumed that the common man has common sense and not crash planes into buildings, or stone people to death or whatever else people have done wrong.
I sometimes wonder if religious people realize that some people can’t believe certain things based solely on faith. Whet, do you realize that a lot of us can’t believe a lot of this stuff because we are incapable of belief and not because it would stop us from living life the way we want. I would love to be Christian! It would give me easy answers to all of my questions and a moral compass for which to live my life.
nroth, it is hard. I don't believe in God solely on faith. I think it makes more sense that there should be a God than not, and I believe that the Christian Bible explains that better to me than the Qur'an, the Torah, or any other number of religions. I do not believe in polytheism either. Christians are not polytheists, we believe in the Son, the Father, and the Holy Spirit, but they are all extensions of one God as much as you're arms legs and head are all a part of you.
However, you still need faith to make that leap from being agnostic to a theist. That is why most people who are actively agnostic (can't answer the god question but care about it) can't commit to the idea of god. For someone who might have been taught at birth to be religious it might be hard to understand why agnostics can’t make, what seems like to the theist, to be the small leap of faith.
5 because I love that there are good Christian people here, not just a bunch of f*cktards.
But I don't get slide 9 you say she didn't know much about Jesus because she was Roman Catholic? I grew up Roman Catholic but really I just consider myself a christian, I don't differentiate between the different sects. But I can say that we pretty much learn the same thing as every other Christian religion, we learn about Jesus just as much as the others. The protestant sects are all branched from Catholicism.
Everyone needs to realize it is up to them to get to know God. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. John 4:13 -14 Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."
By the way falco @ that link... The people in "hell" have not just "been bad" they have committed unthinkable acts, refused to see them as evil and would do them again. As C.S.Lewis says "The gates of hell are locked from the inside". These are the kind of people that are never sorry they did the crime, they are sorry they got caught. They abuse their free will by taking away others, and they refuse to own up to what they have done and will never see what they have done as evil or selfish.
This is beyond Chicken Soup for the Christian soul. This is more like melted Jolly Rancher plus Pixie Sticks and Kool-Aid for the Christian soul. It's very well done, however, and it utilizes a very expertly composed original musical track. I could not give this less than a four in good conscience. I guess some blowhard's going to call for your banishment again after this.
A tad long. Music was good. I can deal without the funny. I also
dont mind that it is preachy. I mean really, half the sh*t on YTMND is
preaching, be it some crap fad, or christianity. Atleast your not an
*ssh*l*e. Free speech permeates the tubes. As long as youre not
Cyberman. If so, I take it all back. Stfu. -1 for length.
Okay, you seriously need to get at least half a clue about how to debate. Anecdotes are not data. A few stories about some guys who said things when they died are not evidence of a damn thing. If I thought you were worth the effort, it would be a trivial matter to go and find deathbed quotes of non-Christians who said things that were hopeful and cheerful, and quotes from Christian practitioners who said things that were rather distressing and doomsaying under similar circumstances. Get. A. Job.
Nice presentation. That said, I hope you're not saying "oh, god exists because some guys said some stuff when they died..." I am personally an atheist. I am not consumed by crushing depression, I have no desire to kill anyone, and I made peace with the inevitability of death in childhood as everyone does in one way or another. It's nice that you have your magical invisible man in the sky to comfort you, but please don't try pushing him on other people on YTMND. Also, the music was dull and repetitive.
=S YTMND Vent is totally owning you. This is a lot better than the previous one, but still whats the point? I guess your purpose is good but
ytmnd isnt the right place for this. Also, why the Catholic bashing? Thats offensive, and Catholics know a lot about Jesus. All those anti catholic things effect your credibility. A question, what does God say to a taoist in the far east who has dedicated their life to helping others?
Anecdotes from dying people isn't even evidence, they said it as a coping mechanism, because if they didn't I'm sure they'd be screaming their heads off. Maybe I should use all caps to get my point across:
VOTE 5 FOR GUILT TRIP!
VOTE 5 FOR GUILT TRIP!
VOTE 5 FOR GUILT TRIP!
VOTE 5 FOR GUILT TRIP!
VOTE 5 FOR GUILT TRIP!
VOTE 5 FOR GUILT TRIP!
VOTE 5 FOR GUILT TRIP!
Had enough of these, but now they have old-timey anti-Catholic garbage in them, too. Romish? Romanist? Are you using Presbyterian history books from the 19th Century? It should be pointed out that the very same reformers were the kind that created a police state in Geneva and who theological descendents founded New England villages with religious laws as opporessive or more so than during the Inquisition. Anyway, who the f*ck cares? This is not the place for these discussions.
(repeat)Downvoted because I disagree with your condescending nature as well as your
willing ignorance. You elect to respond to only semantic arguments against
your points, while the ones that actually counter your argument go
unchallenged. Perhaps this comes from a pre-conceived notion that you are
already inferior by nature, a common theme in Christianity. It's a shame
that your religion has trapped you in a way that you can only see from one
perspective, and choose to judge people by it.
So stories of how people died and the illusions they had of their deaths is supposed to...inspire to to be religious?
when will you learn whetstone, god is a figment of your imagination. He was created out of the insecurites and ignorance of early man. Its amazing that people these days are still religious. I was spoon fed this garbage till i was 18 and i can't stand it anymore. You f*cking christians need to get off your f*cking high horse and open up your minds.
Back atcha on the very first comment: I did "actually watch it." I am agnostic, and I resent the implications made in your various religious YTMND's that if you're not christian, you go to hell. I live a very fulfilling life... and unlike most religious diehards, I don't have a gaping hole in my life that I feel I need to fill by taking passages from what is essentially a crappy fantasy novel as the truth.
god doesn't exist. satan doesn't exist. buddha doesn't exist. allah doesn't exist. They're all characters whose divinity was fabricated to KEEP PEOPLE IN LINE. Stop believing in that bullsh*t. Just because some idiots wrote a book called the Bible and tricked millions into fearing their make believe god, doesn't mean you have to be just as stupid. The concept of a God was fabricated to get idiots like you to stay in line.
I'm not sure when people will get the hint but YTMND is an ENTERTAINMENT site, not simply a humor site. The original YTMND was ENTERTAINING though not altogether the funniest thing I've ever watched. Some people vote 1, yet they are entertained (even in a bad way) by my YTMNDs. Heaven forbid any of you should actually think on your own instead of following the hive mind of atheism on YTMND.
"Heaven forbid
any of you should actually think on your own instead of following the hive
mind of atheism on YTMND."
That's pretty much the most ironic statement I've ever heard in my entire life. The follower of a vastly popular religion that all follow the instructions of the same exact book, trying to, for all intents and purposes, brainwash me into joining. And then he says I'm the one who's part of the "hive mind".
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Dude I want to get blown from smoke. Also atheists read faster than your slow *ss framerate. Also just because he was brave doesn't mean he was right. Kamikaze pilots were brave. Suicide bombers are brave. They are just as sure as this guy. If this fanatic was born in Afghanistan, he would have been just as strong of a Muslim. Do not even TRY to contend that he would have been a christian.
I hardly see the fairness of any of this. The cries of the infidels was in black background, with scary music, and this in white background with church music. Not only that, but these are only a few cases out of every Christian/Infidel who died. Can these examples be said to follow along every Christian/Infidel's death? It's like taking a select amount of college kids who go to become immensely successful and showing that all college kids will become wealthy (not a perfect example, but it will do).
Also, as an answer to earlier, the only thing 'entertaining' about this is how much sh*t you're wading into by posting pro-religious ytmnds. You have more of a chance of converting tailgaters than YTMNDeers. (taking out of account those who already are pro-religious and agree with you; I cannot speak from their POV)
And, lastly, our lesson in physics. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you create a YTMND where the keywords are "Please" "watch" "the" "whole" "thing" "before" "voting", of course no one is going to watch the whole thing and then vote. They're just going to downvote. Physics > Religious YTMND :3
If you wanted to make an entertainment site so damn much you should steer clear of the two deadly topics: Religion and Politics. Using either of these makes a comment section war start against you. Oh, and sites on YTMND that are entertaining are definitely not 7 f*cking minutes long. I won't say you fail, but please try again, and don't use religion. Then again you probably consider all the 1-star comments just further proof of your "burden" as a Christian, but please. Stop beating a dead horse.
original? Please, the same recycled crap throughout centuries, whereas NEDM has existed within a single year. Thought provoking? I'm not going to be provoked by a bunch of quotes from obviously biased people. Slings and arrows? If we're telling this guy to cut the crap out and he keeps doing it, he deserves all the comments he's getting. Oh poor christian, being persecuted on a site where NOBODY WANTED HIS OPINION ANYWAY. We're telling him to GTFO but he won't. Enjoy the arrows.
:3333 NEDM ^^ Beat that horse even more dead for me, I'm lovin' it. For as long as you keep posting your religious views, I will continue laughing at you. This fight, this splitting over religion is EXACTLY what YTMND needs, and it provides me with such entertainment to watch the jesus-followers and the RAPTOR-jesus-followers squabble over 2 inches of ground. Certainly you are bringing such anger and hate to ytmnd, making athiests hate christians and christians hate athiests. OH no, I ran out of space!! NOo
At least the other religions are smart enough to keep away from ytmnd. Can you imagine a full-scale war between Buddhism, Hinduism, Muslim..ism, Picardism, NEDMism, Conneryism, NESism, Antidisestablismentarianism, Dictatorism, Nazism, umm.... any others you can think of, and these two already at war? It would tear the foundations of YTMND apart, leaving the system administrators killing every other site to maintain stability at the cost of our freedom. Is this a future you want?
I must be high for the erratic (haha erotic) quotations I'm quoting right now, but at least I'm conveying my point. For whatever reason you are making these ytmnd's for, they are not achieving what you want. People do not want your god's love; or at least not all do. They do not want to learn more about god; or at least not all do. If you do, go join a forum dedicated for that. All you're doing here is creating and prolonging a powerful civil war within YTMND, one which can never be won.
For whatever reason you think you are writing this, it is doing else. In place of peace, chaos. Please stop these ill-thought ytmnds, for they are doing the exact opposite of what I presume you desire; They are breeding Ire and Rage; Stereotyping, Immoral, Painful, Hating, Disgust, Intolerance, all are spewing forth from this very fountain of love you see as your religion. Religion is for hope, but only for those who desire it.
im torn, one side of me says "thank (insert deity here) that theres something that makes me think on here rather then a mind numbing loop of picture and music". however on the other side of me agrees with some of the 1*s up'n'down the list in which religious belief shouldnt be shoved down peoples throats. however people do have the power to not look at the ytmnd, and in viewing it condemn themselves to idiotism. however you posting such a ytmnd tempts them to look at it therefore condemning them to said
idiotism. so really i dont know whether you should continue this or not. something in my gut says its good and right, so i say, forget the 1*sand keep doing what you do best, creating controversy, making, technically speaking, quality ytmnds.
"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." (Luke 23:34)
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Whetstone said: "Heaven forbid
any of you should actually think on your own instead of following the hive
mind of atheism on YTMND."
I agree, I normally don't have a problem with atheists but jeeze you guys sure are making a terrible name for yourselves and your level of maturity on ytmnd. I don't see any belivers of God on the atheist sites screaming like children and swearing and downvoting just because they don't agree with the message. This is really quite sad to see this many people react like that.
Oh great, whetstone is one of those REALLY dumb christians who thinks that he/she is just some great thinker of their time, and is some kind of persecuted martyr because they can disagree with all of modern science, and defend their position with propaganda. Poor whetstone, maybe he should go to one of the thousands or millions of christian websites, or perhaps he should go to a church, there is bound to be one every few miles...anywhere you go, in the usa. So let us have our annoyance free zone here.
I'm sorry did I say disagree with modern science, whetstone "IGNORES" it, not simply disagrees with it, and so do most propaganda pushers of Christianity, such as Todd Friel of way of the master. I just hate BS, I have no problem with your being a christian, just dont defend it with little BS anecdotes, emotional arguments, very flawed logic, and pseudo-science.
Instead of spouting anti-Catholic rhetoric, insult the broader range of christianity for the crock that it is. Every single religious argument you have presented has been nothing but Protestant propagranda with the sole intention of furthering your sectarian views. F*ck you, your "faith," and your sh*tty YTMNDS.
Satan My Master
I slit my wrists to drain me of my blood
Satan My Master
Up side down I turn the cross of God
Satan My Master
Recieve this sacrifice this blood of mine
Satan My Master
I cut into my rotten flesh your signs
Satan My Master
Remember me when judgement day is near
Satan My Master
Take my hand when Armageddon is here
3 stars to keep my vote neutral, please stop making religious sites, I'm Roman Catholic and if anybody can listen to a long-whinded rant about God and salvation it's a Roman Catholic (as many of my priests in the past have been rambling drunks), but seriously, somebody is gonna get tired of this religious sh*t raging on forever on a site that's supposed to be for humour, and possibly pull some Boondock Saints sh*t on your ass......... VERITAS..... AEQUITAS....
I've accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior. I understand your need to encourage and share. But I feel a sense of anti-Catholicism, and I worry it ruins your message. Remember, it is God's place to judge not ours. For what it's worth, I'm a non-denominational Christian. I'm not big on organized religion, but do love the teachings of Jesus and understand the importance of Christian fellowship.
And regarding the question from someone else if someone who never knew God .. or a peaceful Buddhist Monk goes to hell -- the bible actually says no one goes to heaven until the judgement .. and during the judgement every knee will bow. Some believe that to mean, that everyone will have the opportunity to accept God after seeing God for theirself. It would still be the person's decision. Those who don't accept are left to their own devices, which will innevitably be overtaken by human evils (hell).
"Your hands are tainted with blood. Truth or no, your sins are eternal.
[Ashley looks down and sees Tia, lying on the ground bleeding from the sword wound through her back.]
Release the past, look to the future! Join us, Ashley!
Come home...
[He approaches the shade as it talks to him.]
ASHLEY: There is no growth without birth.
Without a foothold in the past, we cannot walk towards the future. Get thee gone, Darkness!! "
"It amuses me how much athiests are like muslims, which you fools have
shown me more and more on this site in your comments, "THE CHRISTIANS DON'T
BELIEVE WHAT WE DO, KILL THEM! ALALALLLALLALLALALALALALALALA", Haha." You're confusing 12 year olds with atheists. 12 year olds run around yelling that in the comments section, most of the genuine atheist comments have been rather reasonable.
What you f*cktard peice of sh*ts don't realize is that f*ggot face n*gg*r aka Whetstone doesn't ever fight the scientific facts or athiest beliefs, he only sticks random facts out that no one f*cking cares about then these f*g 12 year old christian kids come on and are like "IE M KEWL I KEN UPV0TE RELIGOUS SITEZ SO GAWD WILL FORGAVE MY SOLE N SEN M3 2 HEVEN" I'm tired of these f*cking kids coming on and spreading their f*cked up fairy tales throughout YTMND, take your fairy tales where people give a f*ck.
Just once I'de like to see whetstone combat the athiests... I dare you to make a site countering all athiest beliefs with beliefs of your own and give proof god exists to counter the proof he doesn't, make a point people find logical for f*cking once or get the f*ck off YTMND you piece of sh*t. That, or go back to church and have some more bullsh*t fed to you through a tube. You like how that bullsh*t tastes don't you? So next time you f*ck your sister god will forgive you and it will all be ok. ^_~
"Okay, you seriously need to get at least half a clue about how to debate.
Anecdotes are not data. A few stories about some guys who said things when
they died are not evidence of a damn thing. If I thought you were worth the
effort, it would be a trivial matter to go and find deathbed quotes of
non-Christians who said things that were hopeful and cheerful, and quotes
from Christian practitioners who said things that were rather distressing
and doomsaying under similar circumstances. Get. A. Job."
If he's just trying to inform then HE NEEDS TO GO SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THESE FACTS.... HOLY F*CK SOME GUY SAID SOME THING ABOUT SOME F*CKING SH*T F*CK THING NO ONE F*CKING CARES ABOUT, IT'S LIKE TELLING MY NEIGHBOR I SKEETED ALL OVER MY PANTS... HE DOESN'T GIVE A F*CK AND IT'S SOMETHING HE'D RATHER NOT KNOW.
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