Proof by logic is a flawed argument as logic is of human creation and thus inherently flawed. The argument for God is identical to the argument against God which seems paradoxical though this has already been confronted via "Which came first, the chicken or the egg" and/or "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound" as well as such famous stories as "Oedipus Rex".
God is everything but nothing to be understood, or God is nothing but everything to be understood. Force or being, it does not matter, for our world remains unchanged, and so too do we.
Again it becomes simple for in this allowance we have said that God is beyond comprehension, this being limited to that in which we exist, our not being able to create anything, in thought or reality, outside that which is allowable by our system. Therefore a full understanding of God is futile, and what is more, pointless, for it does not apply to that which is our existence. So we have come once again to where we have begun.
We are allowed here to cease in our inquiry, for if we accept that God's knowledge is of our system, the very system by which God exists, then again we find ourselves where we began with God simply being the force which brings the future, incapable of choice. Let us continue though as allow God to exist within a system. So we must accept that this system is beyond that which we know with our entire system being only one aspect, this aspect that God has chosen for our existence.
That is, if God is all that we are and God's existence is all and only what we are, then we should find God in a predicament much like our own as put forth by Heisenberg's uncertainty principle in physics, or the notion that one can see the world only through one's eyes and thus can only be understood as one has experienced, unable to experience all at once.
If we were to say that our system is comprised of ALL of the knowledge of God then we have found a predicament, and that is that one cannot have complete knowledge of oneself within one's system.
One cannot invent the microwave oven without knowledge of the inner workings of both microwaves and electricity, and so it can be seen that God could not create our system without intimate knowledge of its workings, to be more precise, everything that is possible could only be possible if it were conceived of by that which created it. Therefore our entire system must exist as some aspect of knowledge of its creator.
If we say that God exists as intelligent we must then say that we are created by intent, otherwise we find ourselves again created by the system in which God exists rather than by God itself, and we have returned to our beginnings. So far we have drawn that God is an intelligent being within a system that allows for our creation and existence. So now we must ask what extent of intelligence God must have, for creation with intent requires knowledge of what is to be created.
This implies that our system exists within the system of God as some aspect. There are two methods for creation, though both rely on exploitation of system. One is with intent and the other is of course by accident.
Now we have existence of a God with intelligence and so now we must question what this intelligence is, or more precisely its extent, using we humans, made in God's image, as a model for study. We know as humans that we can only create that
which is allowable by our system, therefore it would seem reasonable to say that our system must therefore be allowable within the system by which God creates.
At one time science was but an explanation of that which we see, but theoretical physics have allowed us to investigate all of that which can exist, and so it has become what
religion once was. But let us say further, that this system is the
creation of God, we now having attributed God an intelligence and
capability, that something should be created not simply because it must, rather because it was decided.
Let us put forth that God exists. Here we must be explicit in what
existence is, for if existence is defined as that which is cause to
effect then be it God or physics, their being now equivalent, our world is evidence enough, for if God is but the force that drives the world forward, that which decides what shall or shall not be, then we see only need of a system, that which once sought by religion but is now the goal of science.
the gif has too much text. some people only like moving pictures that make them laugh.
2006-03-02 09:21:30
Waziot 1 star
Are you a playwrite by any chance?
2006-03-02 09:51:41
inkdrinker 1 star
Yeah I can see why this is a YTMND and not a webco
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