A Feature Requesst: Anti-Sponsorship
Created on: September 27th, 2006
This is a serious suggestion, submitted for the review of the YTMND community. I think Max, and YTMND would benefit from the bidding wars that are sure to ensue.
Sponsorships:
| user | amount | user | amount |
|---|---|---|---|
| fatelvis04 | $20.00 | tarkaan | $10.38 |
| SadameMusouka | $4.55 | ||
| Sponsor this site! | Total: $34.93 | Active: $0.00 | |
Vote metrics:
| rating | total votes | favorites | comments |
|---|---|---|---|
| (4.04) | 1,270 | 13 | 557 |
View metrics:
| today | yesterday | this week | this month | all time |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 26,981 |
Inbound links:
| views | url |
|---|---|
| 47 | https://www.bing.com |
| 4 | https://7ooo.ru/ |
| 3 | http://7ooo.ru/forum/ |
| 2 | http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=BACK+TO+YTMND |
| 2 | http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=www |
I don't know, it just seems like these athiests are taking action with ytmnds not to state their own beliefs, but to serve as a reaction to the christian ytmnds. Granted, the same would apply if the christian ytmnds sprung up around atheist ones, but they didn't. The chrisian ytmnds came first, out of their own will and not out of a spite for other ytmnd sites.
Okay, time to snap back to reality. When someone sponsors a site, it's usually on the front page for 7 days or less. (In fact, the sites under $ 10 have often been knocked off the list in a day or two) and that's happening now, under normal circumstances. Do you really think anyone would be stupid enough to spend cash to remove a site from the sponsored list when it will most likely be gone naturally by simply waiting a few days?
Not only that, but consider this. Let's say there are two sites on the bottom of the sponsored list that annoy me (World of Warcraft for example) :P Let's assume they're $ 5.00 each. I can spend $ 10.00 to take them off, or I can spend $ 5.50 on two of my favorite ytmnds - total $ 11.00 that will not only knock them off the list, it will get two of my favorite sites new exposure as well. Think about it.
I don't care either way, I just don't think people will actually spend money to remove sites. (okay, maybe Teknorat would do it) The only thing it would accomplish is giving the wealthy members even more power than they have now, and the common user would be less likely to sponsor sites out of fear of the anti-sponsor.
◄roq: "Not only that, but consider this. Let's say there are two sites on the
bottom of the sponsored list that annoy me (World of Warcraft for example)
:P Let's assume they're $ 5.00 each. I can spend $ 10.00 to take them
off, or I can spend $ 5.50 on two of my favorite ytmnds - total $ 11.00
that will not only knock them off the list, it will get two of my favorite
sites new exposure as well. Think about it." Actually this is true. On second thought, anti-sponsorship It's not a very good idea.
That's retarded, to take away someones money that they donated, because someone else donated a dollar.
They still gave ytmnd money, so why are you complaining?
If they wan't to waste thier own money sponsering sh*tty ytmnds, let them go for it.
But its still thier money, and how much they donated shouldn't be taken away from them. You are a f*cking retard.
Nah, this is honestly a really bad idea. Think about it- although many of the anti-Christians around here seem to like the idea, note that there would be no rules as to what sites could be "down-nated". We'll wind up with some downvoter-esque f*gs with money to burn who just rip apart everyone's donations. Since your donations would not be secure, less and less people would donate. Sure, you'd have the initial donation rush to take down Whetstone & Co's sites, but then what? Nothing, I tell you. Nothing.
Wouldn't that just mean that the people with the most amount of money could insure that only their ideas/products/views/ideals/morals/ect are presented on this website? Censorship not by public opinion, but by deep pockets? This is a terrible idea! If I wanted this to happen, I'd watch the US elections. @_@
Hmmmmmm. At first, I thought this was a great idea. I thought about some more, though, and then I thought that people would just forget sponsoring completely with this. Since there's so many people that browse ytmnd every day (with so many different opinions) a lot of people wouldn't even bother to give money to sites to see them on the front page because they'd know other people would probably just mark it down for more cash. On the other hand, though, there are completely different motivations for
Not that I'm defending this retardery of a site, but Sklempt somehow got the wrong idea that the PMRC and V Chip were left wing censorship just because Tipper Gore was in the PMRC. Tipper Gore is a social conservative all the way and her allies in the PMRC were unfailingly right wing. Allies like Phyliss Schlafly, Pat Robertson, and crazy f*cks like Bob Larson. Read the wiki on that one - he's a laugh.
As much as I hate Cries of the infidels and appreciate where you're trying to go with this it will only exacerbate the problem. It would just mean that even more so the more disposable income you have the greater controll you have over ytmnd. I dont think poverty is a good determinant that your opinions are less valid than average.
This is a very good idea. I don't think the 'affluent' will control YTMND because all they can do with that money is more exposition on the main page, in one area. By sponsoring, they may actually cause their rating to go down. How much money they have does not determine the final rating of their YTMND.
In the end, what this feature would do is give Max a ton of money, and keep YTMND alive. Isn't that the best thing ever? ^^
"I presented the idea to max last year. Every further idea you will come up
with, you can rest assured I've suggested. Things to do with text,
pictures, sounds, alternate voting systems, alternate methods of monetizing
the site, merch ideas, etc. Accept your uselessness and fall on a sword."
Shut the f*ck up you stupid sh*t.
Why not? People pay money to have their YTMND out front; but then people could pay MORE money to bring it back. And then MORE to bring it front again.
Okay, so say it was like this: you had to pay twice as much to downate, so a site would have:
Sponsored amount: $3.00
and then in the description it would have:
Donations: $6.00;
Downations: $6.00.
so you could see what i was being paid, but its rank on the sponsorship list drops. It's all just a way to make Max more money anyways.
Also to naysayers:
If it's really about bringing lesser YTMNDs to the front, then no one will Downate. If, however, the site being sponsored isn't supported by the userbase, then it will be downated. Think about it; if it was just any old site that no one had heard of and the user was paying some money to get it out front, who would waste their $25 to kill it? On the other hand, if it's a site that's well-known and controversial, why should the fans be able to push it up and the haters not be able to
push it down? This system generates YTMND revenue to pay the hosting bills for you ungrateful slobs, it allows the voice of protest to stand tall in the face of money, and it allows the TRUE heroes of sponsorship (the noname sites trying to get on the front page) a way to get up there in the face of a $100 atheism controversy because, if people will pay $100 to put it up, they'll pay $100 to put it down, allowing the smaller sites a chance to coexist with the big money.
It really makes no difference to me, as I said before. However, those of you who assume the privilege wouldn't be abused are kidding yourselves. Assuming that YTMND's population remains relatively the same as it is now in the long-term, that might be the case. The fact is though, our population seems to have doubled in less than a year (correct me if i'm wrong) and it's only going to continue growing. Now imagine a population of 2,000 users online, or 5,000 users, or even 10,000 eventually.
All it would take is ONE wealthy person out of those thousands online to completely wipe off any sponsored sites he or she wishes to wipe. A member of Scientology could've wiped off Smoothmedia's site from the sponsored list, had the function been available. It's basically just selling out, for a rather pointless cause at that. Again, the point of sponsorship is to show your admiration for worthy sites. If you want a site off the list, you sponsor another site to overthrow the old one.
I find it hilarious that some people will actually PAY MONEY to filter the sites they see on the front page. Others make comments like "Get off my front page" or "Get off my Top 5." It's not YOUR front page. YTMND is an entire community, and the front page consists of the end result of the efforts, votes, and donations of thousands of people. Your single opinion does not dictate what the front page should or will contain. If you want to see better sites, SEARCH for them and shut up.
Didn't you say in your YTMND that you upvoted the Pale Blue Dot YTMND in order to counteract the other YTMND? That means your idea is unnecessary. Also, I don't understand why its 'important' to be on the front-page sponsored section. Who cares if a bunch of people paid Max to put a link somewhere on the front page. 1 Star for overreacting. Congats on the high views though.
Your an idiot. Anti-sponship would kill the whole idea of sponsorship and thus ytmnd would lose money and we might risk losing ytmnd forever.
Why pay money to sponsor a site if your retarded enemy could jsut pay more to anit-sponsor it? You wouldn't, unless your dumb. Thus, eventually no one would sponsor. If people waste their time downvoting don't you think they would waste their money anti-sponsoring.
lol.
How about you just donated more money to another site you like, and get it off the list that way? I dont know. seems
more logical then starting some other lame *ss flame war.
The fact of the matter is, is that not enough people are donating to begin with, and thats why sites are still on that
list. I havnt donated because my Mom says I need to save up for my lobotomy.
The problem you are not considering (and apparently - forgive me if I'm wrong - those who have commented are forgetting as well) is that if you can de-sponser a site, people are /much/ less inclined to sponser it in the first place. If people throw $30 into a site only to have someone throw $30 back at it, people are likely going to stop sponsering stuff at all just because it'll become moot.
Just a thought.
Excellent idea. I don't think it would be counterproductive at all. YTMND STILL gets the money (being that you PAY 1.00 to delete 1.00 and so on and soforth) so honestly I can see how it might actually ENCORAGE people to spend MORE so it will be harder to "anti-sponsor" a larger amount. If someone loves it enough they pay $40.00, the chances of someone hating it enough to WASTE $40.00 is a lot lower then say $2.00. If they hate it enough that they DO want to waste $40? thats still $80 for YTMND!!
This idea is awesome! It's like "penny wars" back in high school where different graduating classes would raise money by putting pennies in a bin, but would "lose" the win by recieving bills. Same idea here--the battle for the sponored spot will make it more lucrative and more exciting. If people were paying to fight off one another, I would look at the sponsored list far more often.
Do it!
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