Why God DOESNT Exist
Created on: September 7th, 2006
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btw, I help others in this world because it makes me feel good, not because I believe I will be rewarded for it in some afterlife. I respect others because I know my kindness will be reciprocated, and others will love me in return. Religion is not a prerequisite for morality, and living in fear is a sad life.
we have no way of knowing anything about God ... if he is the entity claimed to be, we cannot interact with him and apparently he chooses not to interact with us (strange, as he *supposedly* did a lot of interaction in Biblical times). So, if he's there or not, he doesn't affect us and we can't affect him. What do you call something that you can't sense in any way, or interact with, and does not interact with you? Nothing. If God is what whetstone claims, than he is in fact not existent.. not in this universe at least. and if he isn't in our universe.. who the f*ck cares what he's up to? we can't do anything about him and he can't do anything about us (at least apparently so). so in all essence he might as well not exist, or in fact, does not exist.
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Objection 3: apples to oranges. Where exactly is he doing that? He says space, time, and matter were caused. Your, "apples to oranges" comparison amounts to: 1) If A, then B. 2) C, therefore B. It not only makes no sense, it's irrelevant. Further, in objection 2, where you say God wouldn't have the time to create the universe, is meaningless. The non-existance of time is not the same as not having the time.
Nice...I like your theories. Even though I'm a Catholic and I believe in God, I played devil's advocate with whetstone and argued his POV. I still don't know why this stuff is on YTMND, but honestly...who cares? God is what people make Him out to be. Also, since when does God have a mind? I'm pretty sure He isn't a living, breathing human being and even if he was, nobody would know it...chew on that for a while. :)
I'm not going to give a rating or comment on Whetstone (for I am unfamiliar with his work), but for a good read I suggest "on the Existence of God" by Thomas Aquinas. It's a very interesting read that attempts to explain the existence of God uses logic and early scientific principles. I liked and, and I expect it may make some of you think about things (which is really what it's all about).
So you did this all to not prove him wrong, but to put down another's argument? I'll give you +5 for logic, and -2 for being a bit of a dick. Nice argument, I see your points, I am a Christian, yet this does not influence my vote. Anything that, in fact, acts outside of the physical spectrum as we know it, does not have "time" at all in our perception. Perhaps life is an instant there, or perhaps time stands still there. The thing is, we do not know, and therefore, can not use that in an argument. People can not use immaterium to justify an argument, as it does not properly "exist" in this plain.
Stop the arguing for God's sake! This isn't even a true rebuttal at taking his argument, it's attempting to humiliate this guy with semi-science. If God is in the "supernatural" as he argued, then yes natural laws don't apply to him so he can pretty much do whatever he wants or whatever those laws are. In either way, there's blank space there which we cannot define and that's called "faith," not "proof." You forfeit, mediocre day sir!
Firstly, no one can prove or disprove the existence of good (I don't care by what logic). Secondly, on a more personal note you didn't have to be so agressive when writing this "STFU". Even when whetstone is responding he's does so without insults. Finally the only way to discover proof of god is after death. So no living person will ever know the truth, therfor making the topic pointless. Different theories can be used on both sides of the argument. Thanks for making this, and creating some conterversy, we can always use more.
you are stupider than anyone on this site. im pretty sure that god could find a way to get around the fact of time...considering he created it. and the big bang wasnt a small event....it was exactly what its name implies douche.
also your arguments are flawed. you said that everything that happens does not have to have a cause just as big. Have you ever heard of newton's 3rd law ...every action has an equal and opposite reactionary force..everything that has happened has been the result of an equal force
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